First trip to swamp

[growalot]

My I have my work cut out for me...top swamp has really over grown and 16 ft built blind needs work. Streams are flowing heavy..what a wonderfull sound the cascades are making. The lower swamp is completely over grown and wet!

I have an issue with that stand..the tree died and I have to get it down. Couldn't try today for it is also encased in a giant wild rose. The trails look like cow paths though. Will have to set up a bit out side the swamp then I was because most trees are now dead. Couldnt make it all the way down do to rose and I slipped on mud which jammed my thigh bone down in my knee...with the ACL being torn out it seriuosly messed me up..took an hour to hobble back up the hill.

So I have a few extra things to do I wasn't planning on.

[Doc]

Those multiflora rose bushes can be killers, but not completely invincible. I have cleared out a lot of them along our 1000' driveway. It's kind of like the old joke: How do you eat an elephant? .... Answer: "one bite at a time". Rose bushes are the same thing. Cut one branch at a time, and usually only a part of the one branch at a time. A good pair of heavy-duty lopping shears and some heavy hand pruning shears, heavy leather gloves, heavy long-sleeved shirts, and go slow and deliberate. Each one takes a long time, but they can be safely dealt with. If you only have one big one to deal with you are lucky. A bit of patience and you'll have a nice thorny pile of rose branches and be able to get the chainsaw in there safely and easily and get that dead tree down.

[Lawdwaz]

Dead tree?  Careful with that one Growie......

[growalot]

Oh Doc.....there are only two things that will control these in that area.. a dozer, but it would disappear in the muck...or to let  a herd of goats loose on it for a summer. The goat pasture was sick with it even though the farmer brushed the field each year..the goats killed it off the first summer. I actually want that area covered in it. It's always been my worst tresspasing area. Its where the big boys hide out. I usually go down with hand pruners and clip a few narrow assess routes through it about this time of year. I have to say though,this surprised me a bit..I hunted that stand last year several times. So I had cut that rose back pretty hard.its up to the seat of the stand and you can't even see the ladder now.  They did love all this rain...BTW so did the poison ivy vines as thick as tow rope and every where. I dont need to cut the tree ,just un hook the ladderstand from it. I can't maneuver the area  because The overgrowth of ferns and swamp grasses meke paths hard to see. Deer paths are easy to make out in less thick stuff but one wrong step by me and I sink calf deep..thats scary actually. Then I can actually hear the streams running under the ground...dropping through that wouldn't be a happy time either. I don't see things drying up either...it rained from 2:40 and still raining  now...rain due everyday but Wednesday his week.

Edited July 24, 2017 by growalot

[growalot]

Thanks Ya wasn't at all happy to see that...saving grace is it's a recent dead ash so my biggest issue will be an up rooting.its packed in with shrubs and rose ,so even though dead roots are bound up in live root systems. Then there is the ladderstand which has sunk past the first rung into the muck. This is a bit of a stablizer. Thankfully it's a quick release of strap and heavy rubber strap as well. Then quick back down...taking a ride with tree isn't as scary a thought as landing in the monster rose it would fall into...So you can imagine I'll be treading very carefully...push comes to shuv Ill get the long pole pruner and cut both straps.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Sounds like an awful lot of work just to hunt a stand to kill any deer??

Oh Yeah......I saw in there where you said...Its where the "Big Boy's" = (Trophy) hang out.   Kinda put's a Lot of your past posts in perspective huh?   

But we are sure you will come up with something to cover your track's. Kindle Away!

[fasteddie]

FSW -  I don't see why you find it necessary to keep poking her with a stick ....... 

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Just proving the facts and returning the favor! I believe I did so in a very respectable way?


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[NYBowhunter]

12 hours ago, Four Season Whitetails said:

Sounds like an awful lot of work just to hunt a stand to kill any deer??

Oh Yeah......I saw in there where you said...Its where the "Big Boy's" = (Trophy) hang out.   Kinda put's a Lot of your past posts in perspective huh?   

But we are sure you will come up with something to cover your track's. Kindle Away!

Grow up man, its almost like you are viewing her posts just to find something that you can try and get a rise out of her and in the process derail the topic at hand. The OP was about a swamp right? I usually dont go back at people, but some people just get ridicoulous in trying to get their last stab in there. Its getting old bud.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Huh that's funny! I didn't see ya step up in what 17 pages of the same thing in another post of the same crap going on just with the gun pointed in the other direction? You know what they same about what's goes around.


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[growalot]

What I said is it is my biggest tresspassing area, it's where the big boys hang out. I put the stand down there to keep the tresspassers at bay years ago before it was even legal to hunt...the property is only 411 ft wide,and had 2 trailers to close to allow hunting witha 500 ft rule. This is how I got the taxes lowered so much and the property rezoned as waste land.

BTW...I have discissed this SEVERAL times over the years. It only became huntable once the trailers were removed and the bow restrictions reduced. I of course would take the time and work to "save" a stand from a dead tree..also trim trails to just walk my own property. I don't buy land to never use it. Even though it's just to walk. Though when it became huntable I took advantage,and big boys hang out all over my place..years of pictures show that...you are a toad.

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, Four Season Whitetails said:

Just proving the facts and returning the favor! I believe I did so in a very respectable way?

To me it just looks like malicious stalking and attack for no reason at all. If your only purpose here is to harass growalot, or anyone else, understand that it is neither necessary nor appreciated ..... by anybody!

[NYBowhunter]

3 minutes ago, Four Season Whitetails said:

Huh that's funny! I didn't see ya step up in what 17 pages of the same thing in another post of the same crap going on just with the gun pointed in the other direction? You know what they same about what's goes around.


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5 minutes ago, Four Season Whitetails said:

Huh that's funny! I didn't see ya step up in what 17 pages of the same thing in another post of the same crap going on just with the gun pointed in the other direction? You know what they same about what's goes around.


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Step up? Sorry but not worth the effort. I pick and choose what i want to comment on.  Its you that blatantly derail topicd and are malicious towards others. You just proved my point, view away so that  you can find a reason to get your last stab. Have fun!!  Dont you have other posts to veiw so that you can seek your revenge, get a life!!! Done, dont expect a comment. I'll let you have the last stab. Enjoy!!!!

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Ha I love it. Prove you are full of bull in another thread and you have this for a back up? Whatever. The proof was shown that's all that matters! Would like to see pics of some of these trophies though. We all love big deer pics!


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[growalot]

...Thanks to guys like you,4FSW...take note I have not posted trail cam pics of any of the velvet buck,save one young six in a new plot pic. There will be no 2017 or future trail pics of buck posted by me on this site.

Thanks to you  other 3 guys for stepping up, it's appreciated.

Edited July 25, 2017 by growalot

[airedale]

When I saw the thread title "First trip To Swamp" I thought maybe you made a visit to Washington DC LOL! When season opens and the crap hits the fan overgrown swamps are a magnet for the big boys. Tough job to clear shooting lanes on overgrown mucky land. I try to find a couple of good stands where I can be downwind well inside those areas on a used trail and clear just enough to get a shot. I have had some luck the last half hour before dark when they get up and start moving and dry gulch them in the thick stuff where they think they are safe. Can make for a real tough drag if you get lucky!

Al

Edited July 25, 2017 by airedale

[Doc]

Look FSW, why don't you just take the hints and give it a rest. It really is getting real old real fast.

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, airedale said:

When I saw the thread title "First trip To Swamp" I thought maybe you made a visit to Washington DC LOL! When season opens and the crap hits the fan overgrown swamps are a magnet for the big boys. Tough job to clear shooting lanes on overgrown mucky land. I try to find a couple of good stands where I can be downwind well inside those areas on a used trail and clear just enough to get a shot. I have had some luck the last half hour before dark when they get up and start moving and dry gulch them in the thick stuff where they think they are safe.

Al

Swamps are great places to hunt, but not without their problems. I have found that whatever access trails that I have to cut, soon turn to deer trails. Also, the sounds as your boots pull out of the mud, put everything on alert....lol. However it is amazing how much daylight activity goes on in those dense swamp thickets. Swamps are just one of those quiet places where a lot of hunters will not venture into, and the deer know that.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

...Thanks to guys like you,4FSW...take note I have not posted trail cam pics of any of the velvet buck,save one young six in a new plot pic. There will be no 2017 or future trail pics of buck posted by me on this site.
Thanks to you  other 3 guys for stepping up, it's appreciated.

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[dbHunterNY]

we have three swamps that are used as sanctuaries on our property.  everyone borders the property line, unfortunately.  just the lay of the land with nothing you can do about it.  none have stands.  just inviting tresspassers to hunt them and making think it's good deer hunting or something big must be there to warrant a stand going up.  instead they're POSTED heavily.  any thing that can resemble a trail gets flagging ribbon across it.

[thphtm]

The largest deer ( body size and antler size ) I have seen in my 60 years of hunting in New York has been in a swamp.

[growalot]

Oh that stand never got a trespasser in it...I removed the screws to the support brackets on the foot platform and pulled it up and zipped it to the rails...this prevented them from climbing pulling the platform down and using it as a rung and still sitting..I carried zip ties with me and locking linch pins to attach supports ...but when I first put it down there no one realized that my way in was completely undetectable. They assumed it was road access only for me. A few guys got tore up running I am sure...I would never hunt opening gun anywhere near there.The first week ..just too dangerous they would stand on the edges and even the road and shoot in...So 9 pm every day before opener I would carry down my decoy...a stuffed orange hunting suit with a light  wooden T frame  and knit cap...The orange was visible for a long ways...I also had my cut out orange painted hunters placed in different places...They work pretty darn well...Now I use open blind windows with half orange decoys...the hunting forms and plastic vests in the trees...they get moved around at night. The swamp now has the new owner next to it keeping an eye on things, this after we had a hell of a phone brawl  with him accusing me of shooting deer in his yard and his tenants saying I was down there hunting illegally...This while I sat in a stand a half mile up the hill.. Well I drove up his drive the next summer and we had a "chat"  When I was done he had apologized ...moved his posted signs off my land and told me he'd call if there were any problems and I told him if you don't see me...call the cops. The other neighbor I had a very good relationship with, we would call each other a lot...committed suicide ...so now I have no idea what will happen this year...God bless his soul. That  swamp is just a great place to sit...Once I had a flock of grackle fly in all around me and they had frogs dangling out of their beaks ..It was a wild site to see ...other times I watch mink and the Eagles soar over often..the sound of the water and it is the last place on our land where I can hear the grouse drum. Turkey love it to...in the winter there are flocks of robins that live there...but That is very early  for once those people wake up it's non stop noise from them and traffic and yapping dogs