New Muzzle Loader

[Salmon_Run]

After years of carrying around the barrel heavy old Knight disc rifle I sprang for a Traditions G4 Pursuit (Nitride) and so far like the handling and break open breech. Headed to the range early next week and will decide on propellant/sabot combo. I'm starting out with 245 Gr. Power Belt HP bullets...

I'm leaning towards the Triple 7 Fire Star (pellets), Black Horn 209 or the IMR White Hot (pellets).

Any thoughts ? 

Edited October 3, 2018 by Salmon_Run
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[moog5050]

I have only ever used BH209.  It does burn clean and my encore is very accurate with it.  Probably a bit more of a pain to load and unload.

[Jeremy K]

I used white hott pellets which forced me to look for something better . I use the BH209 now .

[slayer]

I use BH209 in my mz. its easy to clean and it not hygroscopic than the other alternatives. Plus it leaves less residue in the barrel. If it does leave unburned powder than just lessen your load or check your primer for a tight fit and or a blow back problem. remember not all primers are created equal or the same size. Good luck.

 

 

[Salmon_Run]

Range day: 74 degrees / humidity in 90% range / negligible wind 

Load:

Triple 7 "FIRESTAR" pellets (3) = 100 grain (can use 5 pellets max.)

"Smackdown" 250 gr. Sabot from Traditions

CCI #209 primers

At 100 yards with a bore sight I was only about 4 inches low, fast ignition and no sulfur smell upon firing. About the same clean burn as Pryodex pellets I used in my Knight. Bore cleaned with a patch after each shot with no decline in accuracy. Clean up at the home bench was about normal with significant scrubbing and multiple patches used to get the fouling out.

I found the pellets easy to use and no significant gain in clean burn from Pyrodex pellets. 

[Reb]

I use triple7 pellets in my cva and really like them,no issues and cleanup is easy.

[sbuff]

If it were me I'd go BH209 and a .452 300 grain non Mag hornady xtp in a crush rib sabot. You will never look at black powder the same.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

28 minutes ago, sbuff said:

If it were me I'd go BH209 and a .452 300 grain non Mag hornady xtp in a crush rib sabot. You will never look at black powder the same.

can you provide links to the bullets and sabots?

[sbuff]

24 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

can you provide links to the bullets and sabots?

Sure 

https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/index.php/products/crush-rib-sabots/item/48-50-cal-crushed-rib-sabot-for-451-452-cal-bullet

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Hornady-reg-Caliber-Diameter-Pistol-Bullets/740743.uts?slotId=9

Buying bullets in bulk with sabot and bullet separate is way cheaper then buying pre packed. Just select .452 and 300 non Mag in drop down for cabelas. Just about any bullet store has them too, I use graft and sons for both bullet and sabot on line because I get various other items

Steve 

Edited October 10, 2018 by sbuff

[Culvercreek hunt club]

1 minute ago, sbuff said:

Sure 

https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/index.php/products/crush-rib-sabots/item/48-50-cal-crushed-rib-sabot-for-451-452-cal-bullet

https://www.cabelas.com/product/Hornady-reg-Caliber-Diameter-Pistol-Bullets/740743.uts?slotId=9

Buying bullets in bulk with sabot and bullet separate is way cheaper then buying pre packed.

Thank you. think there would be any issue pushing those at magnum velocities?  150gr of 777

[sbuff]

What speeds are you talking, you could switch to the mag xtp. I forget what hornady recommended to me, I think 1200 fps was there cut off before suggesting to use the Mag bullet in a muzzloader. I'd have to confirm that with my notes later.

Edited October 10, 2018 by sbuff

[Doewhacker]

I set my inline up with XTP’s, accurate and we’ll see how it does on deer this year hopefully. 

Unfortunately my Mustang isn’t BH 209 compatible so for now I use Goex until I run out. I plan on trying Alliant Black MZ soon. 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

11 minutes ago, sbuff said:

What speeds are you talking, you could switch to the mag xtp. I forget what hornady recommended to me, I think 1200 fps was there cut off before suggesting to use the Mag bullet in a muzzloader. I'd have to confirm that with my notes later.

I'd bet it is somewhere at 1800 - 200 FPS based on what I have read, but never chrono'd it

[sbuff]

You'll be fine .....