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so last minute abortions are ok, according to VA gov. even after birthing murder is ok, the death penalty is not ok, setting up mainlining centers for addicts who use illegal drugs is is ok, protecting criminal illegal aliens in sanctuary cities is ok, removing god and in god we trust from everything is ok, but a wall is immoral! what's wrong with these a$$wipes demoncrats?

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11 hours ago, The_Field_Ager said:

it is ridiculous to suggest that men do not have vested interest in the continuation of the species.What if all women decided to abort all babies? And many of those babies are male i might add. It is also absurd to suggest that men cannot be concerned about he negative sociological implications of abortion on the society they inhabit. people who say or agree to such ideas have no philosophy or common sense

I am not suggesting men should not be involved. As far as I am concerned it should be a joint decision but if for some reason the "man" can't or won't be involved  it should be decided by the woman and her Dr.

I don't believe it should be king Cuomo's right to dictate right or wrong whether it is abortion or gun rights at stake.

""What if all women decided to abort all babies?"" That is a pretty ridiculous assumption considering the fact "most" women look forward to having and raising a child. It is part of their "chemistry".

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51 minutes ago, Steve D said:

That is a pretty ridiculous assumption considering the fact "most" women look forward to having and raising a child. It is part of their "chemistry".

Na, whats ridiculous is the explicit idea that abortion is no business of men, as you stated previously.

 And it wasn't an 'assumption', it was an example of a potential (if exaggerated) situation where men taking an interest would be obviously relevant . This might come as a surprise to you Steve, but it takes both a man and woman to make a baby, and many men do not want their children aborted. The idea that women have exclusive rights over the developing baby is stupid and dangerous.

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15 minutes ago, The_Field_Ager said:

And it wasn't an 'assumption', it was an example of a potential (if exaggerated) situation where men taking an interest but be obviously relevant . This might come as a surprise to you Steve, but it takes both a man and woman to make a baby, and many men do not want their children aborted. The idea that women have exclusive rights over the developing baby is stupid and dangerous

I repeat... It is a decision to be made by both not one or the other. And for every man that cares and is involved there are 10 deadbeat fathers that don't  give a damn so don't expect me to jump on the "men's rights wagon".

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It is now clearly infanticide, plain and simple thanks to the evil Cuomo that WE voted in for governor here. Now that he knows that he can do anything and still get voted in, he has gone completely berserk. They have now moved into an area of insanity that makes full-term abortions enter into what one would hope the courts would define as pure murder of a fully viable and functioning human being. Imagine that, a Governor sanctioning baby murder. Some how in NYS, I am not all that surprised. It makes it very difficult to admit to anyone that I am from this state.

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12 minutes ago, The_Field_Ager said:

Yeah, that's not what you said right out of the gates. I am happy for the clarification however.

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1 hour ago, Steve D said:

I am not suggesting men should not be involved. As far as I am concerned it should be a joint decision but if for some reason the "man" can't or won't be involved  it should be decided by the woman and her Dr.

I don't believe it should be king Cuomo's right to dictate right or wrong whether it is abortion or gun rights at stake.

""What if all women decided to abort all babies?"" That is a pretty ridiculous assumption considering the fact "most" women look forward to having and raising a child. It is part of their "chemistry".

 

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1 hour ago, Steve D said:

I am not suggesting men should not be involved. As far as I am concerned it should be a joint decision but if for some reason the "man" can't or won't be involved  it should be decided by the woman and her Dr.

 

I don't think a woman has ANY more right than anyone else to terminate a pregnancy as late as 7-9 months into it.  Neither does the Dr..   Maybe if the mothers life was somehow in real jeopardy, but so far NO one has given any examples of how it could be at this stage of pregnancy where the baby couldn't be pulled out alive instead of terminated.  At this stage in the pregnancy the child in a good percentage of cases would survive if it were born prematurely, so what right does anyone have to terminate it?   If it dies naturally then there is NO argument, but why does anyone, even the mother have the right to decide to terminate it at this point?  How different is it if you let the baby be born naturally and then killed it when it was already outside of the mother?   Wouldn't that be considered murder by most rational thinking people?  I honestly don't see the difference between that or a late term abortion.  There is something dreadfully wrong with humanity if we think nothing of such an act. 

As I've said in an earlier post.  We have people balling their eyes out over a stray cat that was run  over by a car or over the deer that we shot, yet the act of aborting a human being as late as 7-9 months into the pregnancy is just fine and dandy with most people?  Unbelievable!   I honestly don't know how many such late term abortions actually take place, I am hoping not very many, but having the law now give the green light to such practices is a tragedy because NO one should have the right to be allowed to do this.  This is not cosmetic surgery here, this procedure involves a human LIFE and the termination of it.

 

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5 minutes ago, Steve D said:

Tell all that to King Andy I am sure he will be sympathetic.

Oh, I know he won't be, but I am seeing some people here not being very sympathetic either.  It seems like some of you think it's just a simple medical procedure left up to the woman which it surely is not.   There is a life at stake here, and from what I can tell it's NOT the mother's life that is at stake.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, The_Field_Ager said:

Kings don't listen to the peasant classes. If you are that cynical or ignorant of the state of affairs today, you can always not bother replying in future. Just a thought 

No problem what so ever I will happy not to respond to these no result endless conversations.. I am not cynical or ignorant and forgive me for presenting a different perspective to the discussion.

Maybe you should change your profile to "King Papist" Just a thought.

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Back in the middle of the 20th century, the Democrat Party began to embrace an aggressively secular worldview that expunged the notion of Divine authority over humanity and replaced it with humanism. The fallout from this seismic political and ethical shift has resulted in the two distinct attributes seen in today's Democrat Party: First, an oversized, always-expanding view of the role and authority of government, and second, the devaluation of Liberty and individual rights. The great irony of secular humanism is that it results in the dehumanization of the individual.

Nowhere is the flawed nature of the Democrats' secularist, dehumanizing ethic more exposed than in their recent legislative efforts to legalize abortion carte blanche.

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