PA Elk Lottery

[Robhuntandfish]

3 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

I hunted with an old man (Little General Outfitters) in PA in 2011 and 2013 on state land. He knows that area of woods in elk very very well. If i ever draw a tag, i'd go stay with him and i'm sure he'd put me in the right spot.

There ya go. And save the outfitter money for the mount! 

[Robhuntandfish]

3 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Me too, my bull would be so used to seeing me he'll walk up to me opening day. And the look of betrayal in his eyes when that arrow hits him just behind the front shoulder will haunt me to the point that I will hesitate for just a millisecond each time I bite into his perfectly grilled and seasoned backstraps accompanied by a bluegill cheek chowder

That's awesome! Lol.  

Maybe when you mount him you can get that look in his eye for ypur living room.

[Robhuntandfish]

Watched a hunting show last year guy shot like a 380 bull and it was his second tag in like 3 years.  Never know. I don't really gamble but for a few bucks it's worth a shot. Been putting in for Maine moose for a few years too. 

[The_Real_TCIII]

Did anyone else receive this? Do I have to pay again?


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[Robhuntandfish]

Never got anything in the mail before from applying.....

[Moho81]

Did you just win? 

[Robhuntandfish]

15 minutes ago, Moho81 said:

Did you just win? 

They don't draw til mid Aug.  

[Moho81]

Just now, Robhuntandfish said:

They don't draw til mid Aug.  

Oh well..... carry on 

[Robhuntandfish]

Just now, Moho81 said:

Oh well..... carry on 

I was thinking that too. Had to look it up to see if I missed it.  Lol.  Was hoping he got one!  

[The_Real_TCIII]

So no one else received this? It appears to be another application and says to include payment but I used a CC online. I’ll have to call


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[turkeyfeathers]

3 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Did anyone else receive this? Do I have to pay again?


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Did you open ? Golden ticket in the Wonka bar? 

[Pygmy]

3 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Did anyone else receive this? Do I have to pay again?


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YEs, if you want to draw a PA antlerless permit...Be sure to cross all T's and dot all your Is..The state of PA takes GREAT pleasure in denieing you a permit due to a technicality.......

[Lawdwaz]

I filled out many of those in the past and as far as I know, they are only for the antlerless deer drawing. 

If you're not planning on hunting deer, just round file them.  

[BizCT]

Never got one. But I only apply for Bull Tag. This is the first year with new options, so maybe something new?


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[Lawdwaz]

I just applied for the elk drawing;  regular season bull and late season antlerless. 

12 accumulated points over the years but I haven't applied for 4-5 years for lack of interest.  I can blame (or hopefully thank) Tacks for the kick in the ass.............

[BizCT]

I just applied for the elk drawing;  regular season bull and late season antlerless. 
12 accumulated points over the years but I haven't applied for 4-5 years for lack of interest.  I can blame (or hopefully thank) Tacks for the kick in the ass.............

Most states you lose all your points if you skip a year


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[Lawdwaz]

That would suck......

[The_Real_TCIII]

I believe Lawds got the right of it, they appear to be antlerless deer applications. I don't know why I received them

[Pygmy]

1 hour ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

I believe Lawds got the right of it, they appear to be antlerless deer applications. I don't know why I received them

Probably because you look like a bambi killer...

[The_Real_TCIII]

Probably because you look like a bambi killer...

I do not discriminate that’s for sure


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[J sin]

20 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Did anyone else receive this? Do I have to pay again?


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Yes, I got the same two envelopes in the mail. I spoke to a woman from the PA game office and she stated that they mail them out in error every year to the Elk applicants. The yellow card show what you applied for is the only thing to be concerned with keeping. Good luck to all that applied !!  And a thank you for starting this thread. 

Cheers,

Jsin

[Dinsdale]

Looks like Missouri will join PA and Kentucky as another small resident herd state with a season......

 

MDC announces plan for Missouri elk hunting

Limited season for Missouri residents could start as soon as 2020 if plan criteria are met. 

 
This image of a bull elk was taken at Peck Ranch Conservation Area in the Missouri Ozarks. MDC is proposing the framework for a limited elk hunting season and is asking for public comments at short.mdc.mo.gov/Z49.


JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – The Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) shared its initial plan for a limited elk-hunting season with the Missouri Conservation Commission at the Commission’s public meeting June 28 at MDC headquarters in Jefferson City. The Commission gave its initial approval of the proposed plan, and MDC is asking for public comments.

According to MDC Elk and Deer Biologist Aaron Hildreth, who presented the elk-hunting plan at the meeting, MDC will begin offering a limited season for hunting elk once the herd of about 175 animals reaches a minimum of 200 with an annual herd growth rate of at least 10 percent and a herd ratio of at least four cow elk for every bull elk.

According to MDC research, the herd will likely reach 200 animals by 2020. With that in mind, MDC has designated a nine-day archery season for elk running Oct. 17-25, 2020, and a nine-day firearms season for elk running Dec. 12-20, 2020.

Hildreth noted that the number of permits for a possible 2020 hunt has yet to be determined.

“If the elk population is below desired numbers in early 2020, the Conservation Commission may choose to not open the online application process or issue any permits for a fall 2020 hunt,” he explained. “We will then focus on 2021.”

MDC hopes to eventually reach a target population of 500 animals and will use hunting to manage herd size and location.

Elk are a native species in Missouri but were hunted to extinction in the state through unregulated market hunting during the late 1800s. MDC worked with the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources to reintroduce the native species by capturing and transporting wild elk from Kentucky to a remote area of the Missouri Ozarks. The reintroduction effort took place in 2011, 2012, and 2013 with most of the 108 relocated animals being cow elk with some calves and immature bulls. Their numbers have grown, and their range has expanded in recent years to cover portions of Carter, Reynolds, and Shannon counties. The area consists of nearly 80 percent public land interspersed with tracts of private property.

Hunting Framework
Under MDC’s framework, elk hunting would be limited to Missouri residents at least 11 years of age who have their hunter-education certification or are exempt from hunter education by age (born before Jan. 1, 1967). Hunting permits would be assigned through a random lottery of all applicants. MDC will require a $10 application fee to be eligible for the limited hunt with a $50 permit fee for those selected through the lottery. MDC will limit the random lottery to one application per-person, per-year with a 10-year “sit-out” period for those drawn for a permit before they may apply again.

The hunting zone will be limited to Carter, Reynolds, and Shannon counties, but will exclude the special refuge portion of Peck Ranch Conservation Area where elk were initially reintroduced.

“Permits issued each year will be valid for a nine-day archery season beginning the third Saturday in October and a nine-day firearms season beginning the second Saturday in December,” Hildreth explained.

He added that the timing of the seasons was designed to avoid the peak of elk breeding during late September and early October and to avoid the elk season coinciding with portions of the firearms deer season.

“The allowed hunting methods for each season will be the same as for deer hunting,” Hildreth said. “The permits will allow for the harvest of one bull elk with at least one antler being greater than six inches in length. Successful hunters must Telecheck their harvested elk, like for deer.”

Local Landowners Included
According to MDC, local landowners have been supportive of the reintroduction of elk to the area and local communities have benefited from an increase in tourism related to elk. 

MDC will reserve at least one permit from the annual random lottery for resident landowners with at least 20 acres within a specified boundary within Carter, Reynolds, and Shannon counties. The special landowner permits will be nontransferable and may only be filled on the landowner’s property.

“Qualifying landowners will not be required to pay the $10 application fee but will still pay a $50 permit fee if selected,” Hildreth said. “If selected, they will not be required to wait 10 years before again applying for the landowner permit. Qualifying landowners may apply once each year for a regular hunting permit and for a special landowner permit but may receive only one permit annually.”

Public Comments and Next Steps
MDC held several public meetings in communities around the elk restoration zone last December where staff discussed possible elk-hunting details. MDC also offered a statewide online comment period.

As part of the rulemaking process, MDC is now again asking for public comment on the proposed elk-hunting framework through Aug. 31 at short.mdc.mo.gov/Z49. Refer to the following specific rules open for comment.

PERMITS:

3 CSR 10-5.700 Resident Antlered Elk Hunting Permit. This rule establishes a permit for residents to take an antlered elk in open counties during the elk hunting season.
3 CSR 10-5.705 Resident Landowner Antlered Elk Hunting Permit. This rule establishes a permit for resident landowners to take an antlered elk on their property within the resident landowner permit zone during the elk hunting season.
SEASON SPECIFICS:

3 CSR 10-7.700 Elk Hunting Seasons: General Provisions. This rule establishes general provisions for hunting elk.
3 CSR 10-7.705 Elk: Hunting Season. This rule establishes seasons, limits, and provisions for hunting elk.
3 CSR 10-7.710 Elk: Landowner Privileges. This rule establishes provisions for resident landowners to hunt elk on their property within the resident landowner permit zone during the elk hunting season.
HUNTING ON PUBLIC LAND:

3 CSR 10-7.715 Elk: Regulations for Department Areas. This rule incorporates elk hunting on department areas in Chapter 7.
3 CSR 10-11.190 Elk Hunting. This rule establishes provisions for elk hunting on department areas.
The Commission will consider input received during this public comment period and make a final decision to move forward, modify, or withdraw the proposed framework during its Oct. 11 meeting.

If the framework is approved, MDC staff will then compile and review biological data on herd size, growth, and structure to determine if the inaugural hunt will occur in 2020. If the data supports a hunt for 2020, MDC staff will then present their recommendations on permit numbers to MDC’s Regulations Committee and Conservation Commission early next year.

MDC staff will continue to use biological data on herd size, growth, and structure in future years to determine the number of permits issued for each season. 

Learn more about MDC elk research at short.mdc.mo.gov/ZYo

Learn more about elk restoration in Missouri at short.mdc.mo.gov/ZYJ

Want to see Missouri elk? MDC offers self-guided driving tours through parts of the elk restoration zone in the Missouri Ozarks. Learn more at short.mdc.mo.gov/ZY3

 

[ANTLERS]

I just applied on line, either sex tag for elk regular season and they charged me $1.25 for shipping and handling? Ship & handle what?

[Fletch]

On 7/6/2019 at 9:30 AM, J sin said:

Yes, I got the same two envelopes in the mail. I spoke to a woman from the PA game office and she stated that they mail them out in error every year to the Elk applicants. The yellow card show what you applied for is the only thing to be concerned with keeping. Good luck to all that applied !!  And a thank you for starting this thread. 

Cheers,

Jsin

i got them sent to me as well, two in each envelope.

[Marion]

I got those pink things. Haven't opened it yet

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