Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Uncle Nicky said: Maybe it's the areas we live in. I moved to the border of Delaware & Maryland a few months ago, both states that traditionally vote "D". Every other house is flying a Trump flag, very few Biden signs anywhere. A little less back in my old neighborhood in PA, but still overwhelmingly Trump supporters. My opinion of course, but I don't see Trump as being all that hated, but I do see the media trying to sell this to us on a very regular basis. Hillary wasn't especially likeable, but I see that things are much different this time around. The corruption, lies, rioting in Democratic cities, & prolonging the Corona fiasco for 7 months has a lot of people disgusted, and ready to pick up guns if it comes to that. Harris is a hack who will probably be the president in 6 months if Biden does win, she's more "deplorable" than Hillary (IMO, of course). And I can't even wrap my head around the fact that the Democrats are trying to run a man who should be in a nursing home as the president of the most powerful country in the world. So many of our freedoms are at stake this time around, I can't even fathom how anyone would willingly vote in socialism & more government control of our lives, especially knowing what we know now. I think I agree with all of this except that I can see people not having any idea what is at stake or caring regarding policies and only not liking the loud orange man. The things people believe in and feel these days are often not the way I even begin to look at the world. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 but why is trump getting these giant crowds and biden even when he comes out his basement cant get 5 people to show up who do you think is going to actually vote especially in the battle ground states trump is getting massive crowds those are real voters . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: I think I agree with all of this except that I can see people not having any idea what is at stake or caring regarding policies and only not liking the loud orange man. The things people believe in and feel these days are often not the way I even begin to look at the world. yep ,Their are some just out of jealousy will not vote for trump they don't know a thing about politics but just don't like the cocky rich old white guy with the hot younger wife. Edited October 21, 2020 by phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, phantom said: but why is trump getting these giant crowds and biden even when he comes out his basement cant get 5 people to show up who do you think is going to actually vote especially in the battle ground states trump is getting massive crowds those are real voters . His base. Which is pro Trump no matter " if he shot someone in the street". They come out for the event. But this year is it bigger than 2016 against a hated Hilary? When it was really close then and now you have a bland Dem and Trump has pissed off more people in 4 years. Don't see how anyone can not think this is gonna be a close one. (And no I don't believe the polls in 2016 or now) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, phantom said: yep ,Their are some just out of jealousy will not vote for trump they don't know a thing about politics but just don't like the cocky rich old white guy with the hot younger wife. I don't think it's that reason. I don't think they are jealous that he has a hot wife. Lol. I think they just think he's an Ahole. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: His base. Which is pro Trump no matter " if he shot someone in the street". They come out for the event. But this year is it bigger than 2016 against a hated Hilary? When it was really close then and now you have a bland Dem and Trump has pissed off more people in 4 years. Don't see how anyone can not think this is gonna be a close one. (And no I don't believe the polls in 2016 or now) . voter registration for new voters is up 2 to 1 for republican's his base is growing bidens is not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: I don't think it's that reason. I don't think they are jealous that he has a hot wife. Lol. I think they just think he's an Ahole. yea that to ,but that is still a bad reason not to vote for someone if he has been doing a good job and he has for the most part results matter most sports stars are cocky aholes but you still want them on your team . Same with many good lawyers you hire them because they do a good job not because they are suppose to be your good friend . and biden is not a ahole? come on man LOL Edited October 21, 2020 by phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, phantom said: voter registration for new voters is up 2 to 1 for republican's his base is growing bidens is not Will have to see what that actually means. As voter reg in 2016 was higher for Dems and.... Hopefully the increase is all in California and they vote Pelosi out! Lol I think there is a chance of some real unrest after the election. And am concerned about that. Wish we had better options all arpund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: Will have to see what that actually means. As voter reg in 2016 was higher for Dems and.... Hopefully the increase is all in California and they vote Pelosi out! Lol I think there is a chance of some real unrest after the election. And am concerned about that. Wish we had better options all arpund joe biden said once Obama was the first clean articulate black guy to run for president .Think about that for a sec and you wonder why Obama has not been around helping him on the campaign much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, phantom said: yea that to ,but that is still a bad reason not to vote for someone if he has been doing a good job and he has for the most part results matter most sports stars are cocky aholes but you still want them on your team . same with a lot of good lawyers you hire them because they do a good job not because they are suppose to be your good friend . and biden is not a ahole? come on man LOL I also stopped watching team sports a few years ago cause i can't root for a team with a wife beater and a drug dealer. Lol And if you can't see that the general public looks at Trump as an Ahole more than Biden you have your orange glasses on again. Most are uninformed and won't do any looking into any candidate. Same reason they spend so much on TV adds. Trump blew the debate the way he acted if anyone was trying to. And not everyone thinks he is doing a good job. His base yes, that will vote for him regardless. Anyone else I'm not so sure about his great job. Again like a lot of what he does in action. But a lot not to like. And to me that is obvious. But again I really am mostly disappointed in most of both parties. I could come in with a half dozen in larger politics that I even think are worth listening to. Not often in the political section cause most of you try to change each other's minds and not know that your not going to. Lol. Good luck with the election. Hell you can prob go to bed and not worry about it ypur so confident, maybe just check to see how much he won by.....I hope you realize he can lose. Good luck Edited October 21, 2020 by Robhuntandfish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, phantom said: joe biden said once Obama was the first clean articulate black guy to run for president .Think about that for a sec and you wonder why Obama has not been around helping him on the campaign much . Yeah I agree, but I bet Obama still doesn't vote for Trump either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Robhuntandfish said: I also stopped watching team sports a few years ago cause i can't root for a team with a wife beater and a drug dealer. Lol And if you can't see that the general public looks at Trump as an Ahole more than Biden you have your orange glasses on again. Most are uninformed and won't do any looking into any candidate. Same reason they spend so much on TV adds. Trump blew the debate the way he acted if anyone was trying to. And not everyone thinks he is doing a good job. His base yes, that will vote for him regardless. Anyone else I'm not so sure about his great job. Again like a lot of what he does in action. But a lot not to like. And to me that is obvious. But again I really am mostly disappointed in most of both parties. I could come in with a half dozen in larger politics that I even think are worth listening to. Not often in the political section cause most of you try to change each other's minds and not know that your not going to. Lol. Good luck with the election. Hell you can prob go to bed and not worry about it ypur so confident, maybe just check to see how much he won by.....I hope you realize he can lose. Good luck The enemy of my enemy is my friend trump attacks the far left and corrupt media you call it being a ahole some call it them getting what they deserve . and nobody is prefect . Edited October 21, 2020 by phantom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 hours ago, phantom said: The enemy of my enemy is my friend trump attacks the far left and corrupt media you call it being a ahole some call it them getting what they deserve . and nobody is prefect . he attacks his own staff , anyone that disagrees with him, prob yells at himself in the mirror. If his is yelling at himself in the mirror then you are right getting what "they" deserve . Its it a bit incredible how blind you are to him. I guess as blind as he is. Not looking for perfect just decent. I think its fair to expect that from the POTUS. Carry on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I am not voting in a Mr Congeniality Contest, I vote for a platform and policy that support my lifestyle!!! Al 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, airedale said: I am not voting in a Mr Congeniality Contest, I vote for a platform and policy that support my lifestyle!!! Al should be able to have both. Again i would vote for Trump wayyyy before Biden but it shameful the way he acts and that we cant do better and he cant see it for himself. I tire of eating shitcakes every election and have to be told its good for you. I guess if you have to eat shit its best not to nibble so i understand why someone is all in on Trump. I am just sick of both parties and how they are doing things. Edited October 21, 2020 by Robhuntandfish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 These stories against Biden's son are only selling on FOX to rile up those who'd never vote for Biden anyway. They aren't even getting coverage anywhere else. People have made up their minds and these stories won't persuade a living soul to change their vote. Trump could murder his family and many would still vote for him, so exactly what is the point here? What I find amazing is that there are so many Trump supporters out there who think he will win by a landslide. He didn't win by a landslide last time, nor will he win by one this time if he wins at all. Being 9-10 points behind Biden on most every poll at this point in time isn't exactly great news for Trump. Statistics are generally quite accurate. They were last election contrary to what many think. Clinton was ahead by 3 or so % just before election day and she won the popular vote by about 2%. 3 or 4 percentage points is usually the margin of error. Trump being behind 9-10 points right now is well beyond this margin so this is not good news for him. He is also polling behind in all those states that put him over the top on the electoral vote side last time, so that isn't helping him either. If you want to see what a landslide looks like check out the 1980 and 1984 elections results where Reagan trounced Carter and Mondale. Reagan even won NYS in both elections as hard to believe as that may be. That ain't happening this election. Many think Trump is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I can assure you he is NO Ronald Reagan. Even those who did not agree with Reagan's politics had respect for him. That surely isn't the case with Trump where even those who are voting for him think he's an A-hole. Enough said. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robhuntandfish said: I guess if you have to eat shit its best not to nibble so i understand why someone is all in on Trump. My philosophy of Trumps boisterous personality and demeaner is quite simple, "DOES IT ACTUALLY AFFECT MY LIFE IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY?" NO IT DOES NOT!!! Supreme Court and Federal Judges, Lower Taxes, Pro Gun-Hunting, Fishing and Trapping, Pro Traditional Ammunition, Secure Borders and Legal Immigration, Pro Police, Law and Order, pro Strong Military to name a few are important to my way of life so it is very easy for me to vote Trump and against Democrats whose party is against most of the above and a lot more!!. For me and how I live my life this election between Trump's personality and the Democrat's agenda is not even debatable! Al Edited October 21, 2020 by airedale 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 14 hours ago, Robhuntandfish said: His base. Which is pro Trump no matter " if he shot someone in the street". They come out for the event. But this year is it bigger than 2016 against a hated Hilary? When it was really close then and now you have a bland Dem and Trump has pissed off more people in 4 years. Don't see how anyone can not think this is gonna be a close one. (And no I don't believe the polls in 2016 or now) . Personally I think becasue of the rage and violence the anti-Trump people have shown the "silent majority" is even quieter than before. No way in hell I'd ever fly a Trump flag or put on a bumper sticker. I wouldn't want any vandalism to the house or vehicle. I'm going on record saying Trump's win will be bigger than in '16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robhuntandfish Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: Personally I think becasue of the rage and violence the anti-Trump people have shown the "silent majority" is even quieter than before. No way in hell I'd ever fly a Trump flag or put on a bumper sticker. I wouldn't want any vandalism to the house or vehicle. I'm going on record saying Trump's win will be bigger than in '16 I would rather see him win big than a close election. Hope your right. But if it's close at all I see it being contested and more vandalism and un peaceful protest than we have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonTypical Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) I’m going with he’s going to win big this time. He has exposed China and how they have tried to destroy us. There are a lot of people who have lost a lot due to this virus. People are fed up with BLM, Antifa, riots, media, corruption, and how they are trying to destroy this great nation. He has already showed us that he is capable of making us great again. This virus was meant to destroy us. We will come back stronger than ever. Not only will he get the Latino vote, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets at least 30-40% of the black vote. If he does that, it’ll be a landslide. They won’t have a chance. Edited October 21, 2020 by NonTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, NonTypical said: I’m going with he’s going to win big this time. He has exposed China and how they have tried to destroy us. There are a lot of people who have lost a lot due to this virus. People are fed up with BLM, Antifa, riots, media, corruption, and how they are trying to destroy this great nation. He has already showed us that he is capable of making us great again. This virus was meant to destroy us. We will come back stronger than ever. Not only will he get the Latino vote, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets at least 30-40% of the black vote. If he does that, it’ll be a landslide. They won’t have a chance. You need to visit the bigger cities and see if the latino and blacks will vote for him. Thinking that he will win the majority of latino's and get as much as 30-40% of the black vote is stretching it quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Robhuntandfish said: he attacks his own staff , anyone that disagrees with him, prob yells at himself in the mirror. If his is yelling at himself in the mirror then you are right getting what "they" deserve . Its it a bit incredible how blind you are to him. I guess as blind as he is. Not looking for perfect just decent. I think its fair to expect that from the POTUS. Carry on. did you ever stop and think that maybe just maybe lots of them he fired are just lazy government hacks that are not used to actually doing hard work like in the private sector that trump is used to dealing with they think they are there just to pass time they have the attitude they think they are president but we only have one, trump . like that guy john Bolton thinks he knows it all well then he should run for president then if he wants to be in charge . Edited October 21, 2020 by phantom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, steve863 said: You need to visit the bigger cities and see if the latino and blacks will vote for him. Thinking that he will win the majority of latino's and get as much as 30-40% of the black vote is stretching it quite a bit. yea , I don't know if its true but i heard lots of blacks and Latinos are going for trump this time . It would be so funny if blacks and latinos get trump the win lol the left will go nuts over that lol Edited October 21, 2020 by phantom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonTypical Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, steve863 said: You need to visit the bigger cities and see if the latino and blacks will vote for him. Thinking that he will win the majority of latino's and get as much as 30-40% of the black vote is stretching it quite a bit. Well, I know a lot of Latinos and I don’t know any of them that would vote for Biden. They think he’s loco. These are the same Latinos that were very unsure of Trump 4 years ago. Now they’re all in. As far as the blacks, Trump has done more for them than the democrats ever have. And they are starting to realize that. Even if he only gets 20%, the left is going to be in trouble. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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