So shoulder issues, can I shoot 45 cal in a 50

[luberhill]

So I want to try ML
 

Have a chance to get a CVA Wolf cheap / friend 

It’s a 50 with scope ...

Can I soften the recoil with a 45 cal bullet ?

If so what should I buy ?

Also if I want to use pellets , is Whitehot the best ? And use two ?

And what primers ?

Mainly use for deer in the ML season only

Thank you 

[Jeremy K]

MY CVA is a 50 and i shoot a 45 projectile  . Most people do. 

I tried white hotts ,they are absolute garbage.  

Edited December 24, 2020 by Jeremy K

[luberhill]

14 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

MY CVA is a 50 and i shoot a 45 projectile  . Most people do. 

I tried white hotts ,they are absolute garbage.  

Ok so... what powder or pellet is best ??

primer ??

[sbuff]

Bh209 is in my mind the best but doesn't come in pellet form. T7, pyrodex next if using pellets .

Primers will be hard to come by but there are so many. 

[luberhill]

5 minutes ago, sbuff said:

Bh209 is in my mind the best but doesn't come in pellet form. T7, pyrodex next if using pellets .

Primers will be hard to come by but there are so many. 

So if 209 I will need a charge tube correct?

So there are no primers available ?

What about best bullet ?

[sbuff]

If you get that cva wolf you need the cva or western powder bh209 plug, the stock plug won't ignite bh209. Yes you would need a powder tube ,its not that t7 and pyro are bad ,but bh209 is a progressive burning power so you don't need to swab the barrel aftrr each 1,2, 3 shots . You get a crud ring at the breach if using t7

Primers are around but like ammo are hard to find. 

Best bullet  I wish I new that answer.  My favorite bullet is the speer deep curl in 300gr in a crush rib sabot. 

Edited December 24, 2020 by sbuff

[luberhill]

5 minutes ago, sbuff said:

If you get that cva wolf you need the cva or western powder bh209 plug, the stock plug won't ignite bh209. Yes you would need a powder tube ,its not that t7 and pyro are bad ,but bh209 is a progressive burning power so you don't need to swab the barrel aftrr each 1,2, 3 shots . You get a crud ring at the breach if using t7

Primers are around but like ammo are hard to find. 

Best bullet  I wish I new that answer.  My favorite bullet is the speer deep curl in 300gr in a crush rib sabot. 

Assume muzzleloader dot com would have the correct plug ??

[sbuff]

That stock cva will work with t7 and pyro and all black powder but not  bh209. You need a different plug to shoot bh209 100% of  the time

https://www.muzzle-loaders.com//cva-qrbp-209-breech-plug.html

[luberhill]

Ok so what’s a good charge tube for the 209 ?

And will that above plug still work with pellet or do I have to change back 

[mowin]

The stock breech plug will work fine with 777 or pryo. I use 777. While it's not as clean burning as b209, it's definitely convenient in pellet form.  I use 2 pellets and traditions sabot/bullet.  Don't remember the grain.  I've tried every powerbelt out there, and my ML just doesn't like them. 

[sbuff]

Most or alot use Lanes tubes

The bh209 plug will work with all powders 

[luberhill]

Yea sounds like BH is cleaner but they recommend changing powder every day and you need special plug and charge tube ..

so pellets are easier , use two 777

do you have to clean after every shot ?

If I use a sabated bullet do I need hire butter or anything ?

 

[sbuff]

I've left bh209 loaded in my muzzle loader from opening of north season to the last day of gun. Always goes bang. Any loose powder tube will work it doesn't need to be Lanes.

Easier with pellets many will debate including myself ,but its close . I still use t7 pellets but hate swabbing the barrel due to crud ring every 2nd or 3rd shot 

No bore butter needed its a rust inhibitor in my opinion.  Today's sabots are made from great polymers made to load very easy. 

Check out 

https://www.harvestermuzzleloading.com/

Edited December 24, 2020 by sbuff

[Jeremy K]

I keep 2 of these filled and in my coat pocket when i go hunting with the muzzleloader , there's no way pellets are any easier then just pulling out a tube and dumping it down the barrel ,these hold primers as well. 

[Red]

9 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

I keep 2 of these filled and in my coat pocket when i go hunting with the muzzleloader , there's no way pellets are any easier then just pulling out a tube and dumping it down the barrel ,these hold primers as well. 

I use these as well. I keep one in my pocket and put a string through the hole that's in between the primers and wear it around my neck.  You csn reload really quick with these.

You can also cut the tubes down to what ever length you need.

Edited December 24, 2020 by Red

[mowin]

9 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

I keep 2 of these filled and in my coat pocket when i go hunting with the muzzleloader , there's no way pellets are any easier then just pulling out a tube and dumping it down the barrel ,these hold primers as well. 

IMO, pellets are easier. I've had the wind blow away loose power as I was dumping it. I've also had speed loaders open in my pocket. No biggie with pellets.

They both work well.  I've got 2 bottles of 209 left over after I switched back to 777.  

I agree the 209 is much easier to load a 2 or 3rd shot.  I can get 3 shots with 777, but the 3rd isn't easy.  4th shot would be about impossible. 

[Buckmaster7600]

If recoil is an issue I highly recommend going to a lighter bullet! I haven’t found much of a difference in recoil between charge rates but bullet weights are absolutely noticeable.

I’m not recoil sensitive but I shoot these with great results.


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[luberhill]

23 minutes ago, mowin said:

IMO, pellets are easier. I've had the wind blow away loose power as I was dumping it. I've also had speed loaders open in my pocket. No biggie with pellets.

They both work well.  I've got 2 bottles of 209 left over after I switched back to 777.  

I agree the 209 is much easier to load a 2 or 3rd shot.  I can get 3 shots with 777, but the 3rd isn't easy.  4th shot would be about impossible. 

So her sighting in I need to clean the plug and barrel after each shot ??

[luberhill]

1 minute ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

If recoil is an issue I highly recommend going to a lighter bullet! I haven’t found much of a difference in recoil between charge rates but bullet weights are absolutely noticeable.

I’m not recoil sensitive but I shoot these with great results.


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Is that in a 50 cal or 45

[The_Real_TCIII]

I keep 2 of these filled and in my coat pocket when i go hunting with the muzzleloader , there's no way pellets are any easier then just pulling out a tube and dumping it down the barrel ,these hold primers as well. 

Those are the berries


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[The_Real_TCIII]

My MLs are so heavy I don't feel any recoil at all


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[luberhill]

36 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Those are the berries


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Si can u use these with saboted bullets or just PB

Edited December 24, 2020 by luberhill

[loworange88]

I shoot a .44Magnum sabot from my CVA Wolf.  I use the white hots, and have had zero issues or misfires.  Recoil isn’t too bad at all with two pellets.

Edited December 24, 2020 by loworange88

[luberhill]

1 hour ago, loworange88 said:

I shoot a .44Magnum sabot from my CVA Wolf.  I use the white hots, and have had zero issues or misfires.  Recoil isn’t too bad at all with two pellets.

Can u post the one U use 

And is yours a 50 cal Ml ?

Edited December 24, 2020 by luberhill

[Buckmaster7600]

Is that in a 50 cal or 45

In a 50cal I use these sabots. They’re the easiest loading sabots I’ve found. A lot of people complain about cleaning muzzleloaders and blame it on the powder but slot of times it’s actually melted plastic from the sabots.


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