eagle rider

That's right it doesn't say DEC, euphemistically it keeps repeating "New York." Maybe I'm reading too much into it.

thanks guys this is getting frustrating as you can see. I have a lot of time invested in this and getting no where.

I don't know if its true, but it was on NYSRPA's page this morning. The DEC would rather see commercial hunting in NY then expanding permit offering to resident hunters. That's insane. http://www.pressconnects.com/story/opinion/editorial/2014/07/19/editorial-commercial-hunting/12878987/

Ha, ha...... That will not start an argument. I wish I could say its the Indian and they the Arrow,... in this case its the arrow. I shoot a lot! and I shoot well. I have two customs (one from the Weatherby Shop on a Vanguard S1 Sub MOA Action in 270 WSM the other from Red Hawk Rifles in Colorado that's based on a 700 in 30-06). They're both .33 to .25 depending on how I'm feeling and the wind of course with my hand loads. Most of my rifle shooting is a benched gun off a caldwell rest on the fore end and sandbagged in the rear. The guns are very stable when shot. The barrels and actions are very clean. They are snaked at the end of each relay on the bench (never more than 5 shots in 15 min). In fact I never shoot a rifle two relays in a row (I always bring a couple of rifles to the range). The cleaning routine is they get mopped with #9 and the actions get scrubbed with an action brush also soaked with #9. They sit one full day wet. The next day they get brush out, then jag patched until the patches come out white. After that a patch with Hoppes Elite Oil goes once down the barrel. Bolts are cleaned similarly. The action on the 7400 gets a through cleaning which is likely why I've never had a misfire with it. If I knew I could ever get this rifle down to 1.5 inches, I'd be really happy. The gun was used when I got it and it need to go back to Remington because it had extraction issues. They replaced the extractor and polished the chamber. Again not know how it was treated makes it a mystery. The rifle needed some TLC. Which it has gotten, but was it shot hot and stored dirty, likely yes before I owned it.

I have an older (1982) Remington 7400 rifle in 30-06 that I fully restored. It nearly brand new looking. Even put awesome glass on it (Redfield Revolution 3-9). The thing is, the rifle is at best 3" at 100 yds. I have tried every loading imaginable in this rifle. Both factory ammo and my own hand loads. It chambers, fires extracts and feeds flawlessly (unlike some other 7400's). It's just inaccurate. In fact cold, warm or hot barrel makes almost no difference at all. I tried higher velocity loadings at around 150 gr and 2900 fps, and 180's at 2700. 165's as well. BT, bullets, round nose, pointed soft point, you name it. The rifle is cleaned religiously. I just can't get her to shoot a group. I used to have a 750 in 35 Whelen that would shoot an 1.5" with 250 gr Hotcores. My Marlin 444 out shoots this 30-06!!!! Anyone have an experience with 7400's that can help me out I'm listening.

I've given up hope on Remington and the Freedom Group. Sadly, I bought and installed a Timney trigger. I'm done sending them my guns for their screw ups.

Thanks, we all know what lengths lawyers will go to. I recall that case, but we all know that just about any 30 cal would have ended with the same misfortune.

Guess we will see how she fairs come Nov. I'm set up with a 165 Gr Gameking that's out of the barrel of my Savage 114 at 3100 fps. If I'm looking at 50 yd shots at doe, I'm not gonna shoot. If I can get a shooter buck at that distance I will neck shoot. Otherwise the majority of our shots are 100 yds plus. So I'm thinking I should be ok.

Doc great idea. Listen I wasn't trying to hijack this effort or start a whole in fight crap-n-kaboodle either. Lord knows I've not been as active on this sight as I wanted to be after my heart attack in Dec. Speaking from the heart, the problem is foundational. Make the politicos face the music on the mental cases they put on the streets with their crappy healthcare logic. Which one of the mass murders that caused the SAFE Act to come into law in the first place wasn't criminally insane? All I'm saying is let's revere the dead of their misdeeds and make the elected idiots face the real issue. Cause we didn't kill anyone and were not the problem nor will we ever be the problem.

Yes I think I heard that as well. Just questioning that one fatality and what county it was.

You should try to read things more carefully. What I said is there are many opinions out there and the vast public is not going to understand the nuisances between a "military style" semi-auto and your uncles 742. What they know is psychopaths are killing a lot of people with guns. Most of John Q Public, IMO, stops listening right about there. What I also said is that the state doesn't want to deal with the issue of a failed mental health system that they created to save money decades ago. The last part of the point is that we are lower hanging fruit. We are easier to deal with than the scores of mentally sick they know about and the frightening larger number of mental time bombs they don't. I think the safe act has done its thing, and I have not seen or heard of any add on's planned for Jan. But if you know what they are, for real and not more what if's and conspiracy theories share them. My understanding is that other than lower than anticipated assault rifle registration numbers, the Gov got what he wanted, and pretty much beat us in every court we've been to with this. So we've spent millions fighting a loosing battle. Sad but true.

Got a Bushnell new Trophy with the circle reticle 3-9 on my Prohunter. I like the reticle because it's fast targeting.

Gotta try them,.... There's subtleties that you may not like that are not discussed on the reviews. I also agree that there are great deals on two or three year bows to be had. I'd stay away from Craigslist because you don't know how the bow was treated and you don't want to invest in someone else's headache. There's a lot of older new stock deals on ebay, but over all else spend the few extra bucks and support the local archery shop. When the little guy is gone were all screwed.

Clothing and boots only for that stuff. No gear.

Magnus Buzzcut 100's and watch them bleed.

Easy solution for Kendall. She can hunt with me. The whole thing is pathetic and Boddington is correct. 80% of the country could care less about what we so, and we are 16 million strong. It's the lunatic fringe, as always. If she lost her business deals because of it she should have her lawyers all over those contracts. Which I'm sure with her resources she does.

Easy solution for Kendall. She can hunt with me. The whole thing is pathetic and Boddington is correct. 80% of the country could care less about what we so, and we are 16 million strong. It's the lunatic fringe, as always. If she lost her business deals because of it she should have her lawyers all over those contracts. Which I'm sure with her resources she does.

The switch from SG counties to rifle counties is really amazing to see. In my hunting lifetime (30 yrs or so) it's gone from 50/50 to about 10/90 or so it seems. I was talking to a DEC guy about this and he said its three reasons driving it: 1- slugs and slug barrels have gotten better and inside of a couple of hundred yards they're very close to rifles (hmmmm). 2- the stats support higher rates of harvest in rifle counties so better management. 3- rifle counties have a lower incidence of hunter fatalities. I wonder if the last one is the case any more with so many counties switching to rifle now. Was the firefighter who was shot last year in a switch county?

He's a hammer. Hope he's gonna be there for you on opening day.

I was a dyed in the wool Lacrosse hunter, until three years ago when I got a pair of Mucks. Now I'm all about the Muck boots.

I get the unSAFE Act issue and I understand that our rights were greatly infringed upon by our electorate. But in the perspective of the greater public we only lost something that scares most of them anyway. I'm not saying they are right but they believe what they believe. I have them in my own family and I hear about the same s$&t every holiday dinner and backyard bbq. I cringe every time some lunatic gets his hands on a gun and shoots a bunch of people, awaiting the media backlash. But we are all good upstanding, morale citizens and we still need to be reverent about those murdered. We are a sportsman forum, and as such the shooting sports are a part of our heritage. Yes the SAFE Act sucks, but it's likely not going anywhere soon. To argue about how much the Governor and our politicos hurt our rights is almost as big a waste of time as yelling at the sky for bad weather. God knows I wouldn't want it to get any worse. There is no doubt there are a lot of strange things happening at the Federal level as well. I'm gonna guess here and assume we all didn't vote for Obama as well. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Pretty simple logic my Grandmother taught me me 40 years ago still applies: believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. I'd say you can cut that back by 50% for stuff on the internet. I'm not gonna buy into Government Contracts to restore internment camps in the desert for enemies of the state. I am gonna buy into we traded 5 of what for 1 of who, wtf? The real demon in the SAFE Act is the realization that the States (ours and clearly many others) have no means to deal with the criminally mentally ill. We deinstitutionalized them, gave them a bottle of pills and a Medicaid card and pray to Christ they don't do anything horrible. Seriously, is it any big surprise that a gun in West Webster who beat his Grandmother to death with a hammer set a fire and killed volunteer fire fighters who responded to the blaze. His possession of the gun (a Bushmaster) was based on a straw sale purchase. A perfect storm. Why was someone like that ever paroled? So an antigun Governor, and a Big Government Assembly were going to get behind the SAFE Act some way, some how. Let's stop fooling ourselves to think anything differently. There is no doubt that there will at some point be another tragic event. I think we all need to be reverent when it happens. But the focus has to shift to get the homicidal insane managed since everyone of these mass murders all had significant medical issues. Sorry for the rant and can we please start talking about hunting again.

Signed

Guys, here's the deal, you get jammed for anything and pretty much whatever you own by way of firearms is gone. In the eyes of the law a felony charge or a domestic crime/investigation come with that for sure. In the case of a misdemeanor it would depend to some extent, I suppose, what the circumstances are. Harassment is a misdemeanor. Harassment by a gun owner can be a whole other kettle of fish, and after many years of doing this for a living, I can say 100% that a DA would want the guns impounded. Our rights are our rights until there is an issue of threat of a crime. Then the obligation shifts to protection. Misdemeanor possession, was that really a knock down from possession with intent to deal? Because gun ownership and possession with intent is an automatic charge elevation to felony firearms possession. The connection gets made that the guns can be used to protect the drugs that are in quantity sufficient to sell.

Sounds to me like there's a backstory on these. Order of protection, or something else in play.

Yeah. She's good.