When I first started at the age of 16, my dad had an awesome spot about 5 miles back and straight up ( it seemed), we did that so many times I could do it in my sleep, and most times I did because I should have been sleeping at 4 am. When I got ohe older and smarter, I found a better way to get there that did not involve as vigorous of climb, but of course my dad did not find it so it was not "the best way"
We got some nice deer out of there though and the memories are awesome !!!!!!