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OK Thanks again. I normally would never shoot anything but what it says on the barrel and I guess I'll stay that way.

This is what the guy in the shop told me. I hope I;m not putting out bad info and if I was thanks for the correction. Doesn't the Judge handgun shoot 45s also? BTW he told me he did it not just that you could.

I just saw my first one and I like it. It's an over under 22 mag over 410 ga. Wood stock double triggers and folds in half for easy storage. It's similar to the savage 24 and now 42. I know it's a survival type gun and would want more choices like the old savage 24 you could get a variety of centerfire calibers as well as 20 and 12 ga shotgun barrels. Of course the 410 will shoot 45 colt but it is a smoothbore. On the plus side the price was reasonable. On the minus side I was picking up a new rile that day so I couldn't double up but maybe in the future. BTW I was at Richie Scheriff's gun shop in Gilbertsville and he was asking $351 which seems in line with what I could find on the net. I found some a little cheaper but when you pay ffl fees and shipping you are not winning plus I like to support local guys as long as I'm not being ripped off.

Congrats.So cool.

No good deed goes unpunished. My boss in 1973ish had this saying in French framed in his office. I started using it and voila.

Moog, I said tell me it aint true and I stand corrected. I have to add to the general conversation that we make a mistake when we don't assign malevolent intent to this administration. He did say he was going to fundamentally transform us and he did. He has rendered our laws meaningless subject to his whim of enforcing or not. He has hijacked our medical system in order to fulfill his wishes of income redistribution. He allowed a third rate terrorist group to become a major force with benign neglect. Obama was raised by foreigners who resent or hate this country and the west in general. He lived in Indonesia as a Muslim for his formative childhood years. I understand his feelings. I don't understand his entire party allowing him to fulfill his dreams nor the people who voted for him, especially the second time. Duh!

Just heard that the IRS will allow the poor Mexicans who are being given amnesty who did not pay taxes because they worked off the books illegally to file zero retroactive returns and get retroactive earned income credit. In other words millions of illegals will be getting checks for multiple years they were here illegally. Thank a Democrat.

Sounds like the beginning of an Obama apologist, please tell me it aint so. Cause I have heard the song, they all lie, Bush did worse yada yada yada He means well, He's not a Muslim just plays one in the white house.

Pure Wisdom. I would like to add we must question the government's excuses for their actions because you can easily see the lies they peddle.Like why was the student loan program pirated to the government in Obamacare? Why are the 90% of people who had insurance treated like convicts being ordered to prove we have the right kind of insurance to satisfy big brother then forced to pay double. That/s right, you see it/s not just your rates that went up about 50% but your deductibles went through the roof as did your co-pay. So when I say your rates all in doubled I am probably underestimating by a lot. Think about it, if only 10% were uninsured we could have solved this with a 1% increase and nobody would have complained. So you see it never was about the uninsured.

Thanks for your comments. I fell in love with this round when I had to borrow my friends to take my moose in fall 2013. I guess I'll have to experiment to see which round my gun likes.

Just to close this post, I chose a Ruger ss.

I was going from memory and like you said it will vary from one rifle to the next. Main consideration is weight and action as an auto is supposed to soak up some recoil. I looked up a chart and the difference between with 180 gr bullets was 2. 18 point something vs 20 point something but the 30-06 rifle was a half pound heavier 8 vs 7.5 for 308. I believe the shell for the 308 is shorter because when they developed this round there was more powerful gunpowder than when the 30-06 was. The weight of the round will also affect recoil.

Thanks guys I will be checking them out.

I don't think the 308 is much better in recoil than the 30-06. You might try the reduced recoil ammo from Hornady.

Thinking of getting a 7mm-08 in one or the other but open to suggestions. Leaning towards the Ruger because it has a detachable mag while the Marlin does not and doesn't have a hinged floorplate either. Thanks for any help.

TY Dave, I will check them out and good luck on your moose hunt.

I would appreciate all feedback especially in Maine but have not ruled out Canada. Thanks

My brother and I each had issues with the safety on our Barnett Recruits and were told to return them to Dicks. No problem with the return.

IMHO the president and his AG seized on the ferguson tragedy to rally his base for the midterms and the Staten Island tragedy was also jumped on despite the fact that neither were racial based, especially the Staten Island case. But as we have learned the truth means nothing to the president and his minions. I believe they chose this path because they knew the public was waking up to their lies and empty promises. This was reflected in the midterm results including losing support of minorities. In the Eric Gartner case in SI there were four or five cops arresting that man and one black female sergeant supervising. Why was only one cop brought before the grand jury. I think they all should have been investigated especially the sergeant who was in charge and present. You can bet if it was a white male he would have been thrown under the bus. I am pro cop but when they make a mistake they need to be held accountable. So now we have two dead cops after Al Sharpton held demonstrations chanting What do we want? Dead cops. When do we want it? Now. I know he is a frequent and honored visitor at the White House with direct contact with the president, likewise Mayor big bird. So now the question is How can anyone vote Democrat when this is the result of their scheming in a failed attempt to keep power after failing their base?

I just did this in Chenango county in the spring. The county clerk office in Norwich is where you have your records sent to from you current county. They will notify you to come in and issue their permit based on your old one and you have the remainder of your old permit to apply. You need to take a basic course from a list of approved instructors. The sheriff dept offers this also. You can take an advanced course after this to get full Cary. The people I have dealt with were beyond nice and friendly. The only advice I can give you is to call first they only deal with things on an appointment basis in office but can give you the exact address to give your current police dept. If you go to Chenango you can contact me and I'll help as much as I can. Good luck.

Believe me I'm more disappointed than you. Your stuff is beautiful. Again thanks for your efforts to get it to me. Good luck

Larry, thanks for your efforts to help me but it won't work on my fpl. I have a steel heatilator type and the vents will end up under the vents in your screen. Sorry because it's beautiful and you are basically giving it away. Good luck

Larry, I am interested in this set but I'm in central NY Bainbridge. Where could we meet or how much would shipping be? Dominic

Clearly the bait pile is for squirrels and birds. You should sit at it and shoot any deer that try to use it. lol

Thanks for the replies. It is sixteen axle to axle but almost seventeen end to end which is where it counts. After sighting in the string stretches and it is seventeen inches. I bought one and will be out Nov 1. Shoulder problem forced me to sell my Mission but at least I can still get out with the crossbow.