dbHunterNY

it depends on how wide it is, grade perendicular to the faces of each side, and wind direction. Moog has it right there good to hunt in the mornings with rising air. often staying up out of them is best. rising or falling you'll get air currents swirling around at face on the sides, similar to the back of a truck bed with the tailgate up. it wrecks controlling your scent dispersal if it gets drawn down into it, as it gets circulated around in there. if it's wide enough you can stay away from faces and hunt the middle but you're often before or after a deer passes your stand as the wind often runs through it. in afternoons sometimes wind blows hard enough through it and gives a constant outward wind at the top of each bank. you have to test the wind in different situations with something to see how far down the banks you can still or have a stand.

good to hear things are turning around. scary as all hell and i don't even know you!

...and welcome

film him and fine him again. judges don't take to repeat offenders well. first time could be a minimum fine then after that they start considering max fine.

welcome

i'm curious about something. who here is against full inclusion but would be fine with simply lifting restrictions of maximum draw weight and minimum axle-to-axle requirements that prevent hunters from using some of the newer recurve or compound crossbows that are out now?

i don't know stats or statistics for NY when it comes to safety. i only know what i'm told by hunters on our large co-op that implements voluntary antler restrictions. they've all said they're more deliberate and slow down to identify what they're shooting at meets the minimum guidelines. "slow down" being relative, as we're talking seconds to a fraction of a second more. i don't think AR's making things safer is a quantitative thing that can be measured if substantial at all. i do know that slowing down with a gun in your hands is inherently safer. if you don't think that then there's nothing more i care to discuss. more so than safety though the hunters are making better shots as they're taking less marginal or rushed shots on bucks and doe due to taking more time or waiting for the deer to get closer to identify it better. we've all been there. buck steps out. "damn i gotta make this happen quick before it gets away!"

on our QDM co-op youth hunters and hunters who've never shot a buck get a free pass. otherwise it's antler restrictions. some youth hunters take a buck under the restrictions at some point and some never do, despite they could. seems they take to it more than a school text book and are hungry as hell to experience more activity like he did. they're learning much more than just how to squeeze the trigger and holy mother are they turning into deer slayers that can hold their own hunting with adults that have seen more deer seasons. no hunter likes to not fill a tag or even just slow days in the deer woods. this isn't a world of complete success or bust. it's full of little victories in between. celebrate them along the way and it'll seem like things just keep getting better.

First time in his life experiencing certain deer activity and excited to see it all unfold. If not for ARs he might have shot one as soon as it showed itself and never would've seen any of it. sounds like it was still a great hunt. one he won't forget. hunting isn't meant to be all about participation trophies and the kill. it is about enjoying the idea of being out there and taking home memories/stories to tell others. sounds like he was in a good spot. hope he returns to the area within the next day or two. bigger deer cruise and only stop for a hot doe. hot doe don't really cruise. its a beautiful thing right now.

It's been a decade since I've been but the biggest I knew of was a 160 class buck got taken just outside the park. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I used to hunt Darien lake state park. Every year a nice one would get taken on neighboring private land. It was good. Some spots so thick you have to crawl yo get through. Deer race right through it though. Had a handful of go to spots. Rode bikes in to get in faster in a hurry. One spot I'd park on private property access it right. Trail heads would have me blowing deer and walking forever. Don't live in western ny anymore though. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

Cold as all %$#@. Haven't left the stand. Bucks still cruising. Just had this skipper roll through. I'm in a funnel above a brushy hole. Come on great grandpappy! I know you're in here! Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

some with age still don't get that big. seems like they'd have lots of dumpster scraps. nobody's running off a feeding bear so, it's all you can eat. i know a bear that was relocated multiple times and came back to this area of albany. has to be a reason that offsets stress of human presence.

Under 10 not on the ground isn't good. All the deer I've taken with bow have been under 25 yards too. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

i've pin wheeled unknown yardage 3D targets out past 80 yards way more than a just few times. the more i bowhunt the more i want a warm and fuzzy 20 yard shot at most. crazy things happen when shooting at deer. just because you can hit it doesn't mean you've got the down range energy either. some good bowhunters i know of cut their comfortable practice ranges in half. maybe i'm just an overly cautious individual with a mental "safe space". who knows.

near and dear to ones heart. better idea than purses.

the last buck i shot dressed out at 176lbs. it was about jammed into the back bed of my Honda Ridgeline. it was laying diagonal and i still had to tip its head and antlers back toward the body to shut the tailgate. i wasn't there and didn't weigh wolcs deer. i'm just going to say it seems smaller to me too.

doesn't appear to be a yearling doe. maybe just one of the last one to come in last year? where you hunt i can't imagine see got bred later from lack of bucks. if the doe lives the fawn just might. that big warm body blocking the wind and being a heat source will come in handy when winter weather is in full effect.

Last evenings sit I counted over 20 antlerless deer and 4 bucks. One buck was a shooter but not in range. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

rock your knife between each of 2 center teeth on each side to loosen them first then you can use pliers or pry them foward and free with the knife. not tooth you can see that's important but the root below it needs to be undamaged. send in booth center I1 incisor teeth in case one does get messed up. You'll want to send them in with others though or it'll be expensive ($60+). there's usually a minimum flat rate depending on which of (2) labs you use. teeth for one deer costs the same for teeth for a handful of deer.

flowering dogwood for berries and browse would be available into winter. for apples most are ready by the time November arrives and not any longer. macoun, granny smith, braeburn, are later into bow season. i know some pear trees ripen pretty late but don't know much about them. red oaks will take longer to rot and will be there well into late season if not gobbled up after everything else with less tanins.

people are different shapes and sizes. they do develop the same though as they age. same can be said about deer. another real question was how big was her frame? still might be just a small deer. teeth indicate she's definitely mature. if you look at the first molar or 4th tooth back it's the oldest tooth in the deer and the prime spot to grind things up like acorns, etc. with the damage on the one side she'd favor the her right side when eating once that happened. dentine width versus enamel puts her at least 5.5+ years old, as 4th - 6th tooth back all have wider dentine. at that point hard parts of the tooth are mostly gone and wear can vary but only the 1st molar (4th tooth back) appears flattened to where the infundibulum (space between the sections of a tooth) is non-existent. which would put it at 6.5 or so. I've shot a 12.5 year old doe that had all molars flattened out. she only weighed 95lbs dressed but had the frame of a small horse! 15.5+ year old doe have also been shot around here in NY with the same but incisors (front teeth) were basically down to just nubs at the gum line. you should pull the center two incisors and find someone to send them in. just save them in a paper envelope and not a sealed up, as they'll rot. we're sending some in but i don't know if you're in the Albany/ upper hudson valley area. keep that jawbone, as it's a trophy! unless doe are lightly pressured where you are then it's seen as much as a fully mature buck.

i get it the message is still important. the assumptions always get you burned though. hopefully he ditches the arrow and injury doesn't set the health or antlers back to much.

anything i actually use: Browning Abolt is right at 3.5. My Prohunter ML is closer to probably 4.5. Remington 742 is probably around 4-4.5.

looks great