WNYBuckHunter

The good old George Bridge. I have alot of good stories about that place lol

Already did

If the kid was making excuses for shooting a small buck, its pretty obvious why he would do that. How many times have you seen guys giving people crap on here for shooting smaller bucks? Ive watched and heard adults doing just that to young hunters.

Exactly. He shouldnt have to make any excuses for shooting that buck, and the adults that talked to him should have been explaining that instead of getting upset that he shot a deer they had passed on.

What Im wondering though, is he said he thought it was a doe, not that he thought it was a bigger buck, so ARs wouldnt have helped, as he wasnt looking at the rack.

How exactly, would ARs have helped him?

Uber is great, I use it all the time when I travel. I have never had a bad experience, and its way cheaper and easier than a regular taxi. I wish NY would get out of the stone age and allow it in the whole state.

Thanks everyone! Happy B-Day Steve D

Im not sure what group pushed the legislators on this one, but it was not the QDMA. Yes, I was very vocal about my disagreement with the 2 week doe only thing. Ive also been very vocal about disagreeing with mandatory ARs. Not really sure where you are going with this.

So wait, youre saying a pound of mature buck meat will last longer than a pound of yearling buck or fawn meat?

Im not saying that at all. They probably have more of a voice in their political dealings than any other whitetailed deer organization. That doesnt mean that they have a vested interest in AR legislation, as they have made it perfectly clear that they will not get involved in such an effort unless it meets certain criteria. You havent hit any nerves with me, Im just pointing out that you are incorrect in what you are saying.

I prefer hang ons. I can get them into just about any tree I want, especially the ones that have the adjustable leveling. I dont have to worry about perfectly straight trees, limbs can be left below it as cover, etc etc. Maybe someday due to health, Ill be relegated to ladder stands, blinds, etc, but for now Ill take a hang on any day of the week.

What you were insinuating was that NY was going to become some "hot spot" for out of state hunters, a destination, which would infer that it would become like the midwest. It wont for the reasons I listed. Im not talking about local guys trying to gain access to the farms or surrounding land that a few trail cam pictures came from. That happens now. I dont need for you to explain the QDMA to me, I was involved in the organization as an officer and board member of a branch up until earlier this year. I know what their goals are, what their stance is on ARs and AR legislation. They are a 501c3 btw.

Im pretty sure they base it on a guess they take when you report how many points the deer had. I know of exactly one person that took their buck to a processor this past season, so that one had a chance at being looked at by DEC. Thats one in about 35 bucks that I personally know of that were taken. Most of the bucks Im talking about were mature. The DEC has no legitimate idea of how many mature vs yearling bucks are taken.

NY will never be the type of "hot spot" you are insinuating here. The land is broken up into too many small parcels, the hunter density is too high, and there are quite a few chunks of the state that dont have the soil conditions that are conducive to consistently growing numbers of large racked bucks. Many of the WMUs mentioned in this bill are in areas of the state that do just fine in numbers of larger racked, more mature bucks already. They dont need ARs, and a 4 point restriction would make it so that quite a few big, mature 6 points would have to be left to walk, and many 1 1/2 year old 8 points are still open to being taken. It makes no sense if the goal is yearling buck protection in WNY. You would have to go with a spread restriction, or just let it keep going the way it has been, and educate people on aging deer on the hoof/benefits of taking mature bucks vs yearlings. You are also wrong about your notion of the QDMA having a vested interest in ARs, or pushing AR legislation. A simple google search to find their stance on the subject is all it takes to figure that out.

How many have you killed that were on their way to or from them? We have a bunch of plots as well, I have yet to shoot a buck off of one, but its not due to lack of opportunity at a buck. I have passed a ton of younger bucks on the plots. I have had mature ones out in front of me in them, just couldnt get a good, clear shot at the mature ones.

LOL, I find it funny that you Polaris guys are ripping on Cats for breaking. Whenever my buddy and I go out, if his Polaris doesnt break, it means we havent been out long enough to get cold yet. I can say with complete honesty, that in the last 2 or 3 years, we have spent more time fixing his sled than riding. The Cat he has never breaks down. The old Indy 500 he has, not many issues, but the suspension sucks in that thing. A day up at Tug Hill will wreck you on that sled. If/when I break down and buy one of my own, it will be one of the newer Cat/Yamahas (Cat makes the chassis and Yamaha makes the motors), preferably the 800 or 1100 turbo. He wants a Switchback, but I keep asking why he wants to continue to torture himself.

Happy birthday!!

Its really no different than food plotting, or hunting natural food sources. Once you pressure the deer that use the bait, they act just like they would at any other food source that you pressure, be it a food plot, crop field, apple orchard, oak flat, etc.

If it was legal here, the vast majority of guys on here would do it. They might come on here and blast me and say they wouldnt, but they would. Would I? Absolutely, like mineral blocks, etc for trail cam pics, but bait piles and feeders for hunting purposes are too expensive to keep filled for me. I get anxiety shelling out for fertilizer and seed for food plots every year lol.

There ya go. Someone finally got it. The future of cars is likely to be electric drive run by a small diesel generator engine. Diesel is more efficient at producing power than gas. Freight trains are based on that principal. Todays electric cars are not setup for towing, because they are built like cars. Put a diesel over electric hybrid setup in a full size truck, and youd have ungodly amounts of torque which would make them more capable for towing than todays diesel pickups. Its only a matter of time before they bring them out.

I think what casues alot of the confusion is that the party values havent changed so much, but the core values of much of the North and South have changed.

You arent exactly correct on that. The original "Republican" party was called the "Democratic-Republican" party, and was started by Thomas Jefferson. Todays Democratic party has always been just that. The South was predominately Democrat back then, and the North was predominately Democratic-Republican, aka Republican. The modern Liberal core of the Democratic party took off during the Great Depression. You might want to brush up a bit on your history. Just sayin

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Hey Uptown, looks like you cant stay away, even after I banned you. Well, youre banned again pal. Buh bye now!