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NY Crossbow laws are dumb!

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NY doesn't do an adequate job of defining hunters w/ disablities as far as archery is concerned and they don't make exceptions. My father who was avid archery hunter for my entire life had to have a spine neck surgery that left him incapable of not just pulling a bow back but holding it out with either arm to shoot thus negating him as a NY archer because the crossbow law. Last year in the middle of archery season I was injured requiring 3 shoulder operations. After hours on the phone with the dec these were the tops suggestions they gave me.

1.)Use a gun

2.)Learn to shoot left handed (I injured both shoulders)

3.)Use the little device that you cock it with your foot and then use you it like a crossbow(Bad shoulders can't hold a bow out)

4.)Crossbow during rifle season

5.)Hunt in PA

6.)Better luck next year!

I'm not a pro-crossbow person and this isn't what this is about. It's about the fact this state doesn't help the handicap

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so your not a crossbow person but now you wanna use one?

I think he made his point that he has a disability thus not being able to use a bow. So the use of a crossbow makes him and his father able to hunt again, rather then just give up hunting all together.....
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Don't want to but I currently have tee rex arms so am very limited on my options. I don't really like them but I do what takes to be able to archery hunt. I'm currently working on a swivel arm that I can drill in to tree and set my stabilizer on so I can hold my bow out at arms length. It's not classy but it might work out

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I think he made his point that he has a disability thus not being able to use a bow. So the use of a crossbow makes him and his father able to hunt again, rather then just give up hunting all together.....

thats correct, my dad is done in NY. He's strickly PA now but I however will be here for a while.

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I think they should allow people over a certain age and others who are deemed unable to shoot a vertical bow from a doctor aswell as from a dec agent.

I think they are either archery equipment or not.

Get's far too complicated to break it up any other way.

And I am a recurve hunter that supports full inclusion.

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Before they passed the crossbow law my father in law called to see if he could use one (he was missing 1 1/2 fingers on his right hand and only had 25% use of that hand. Just enough to squeeze the trigger) They said no he wasn't disabled enough. The year after he passed away they passed the crossbow law. Not that he would have used it because he still couldn't use it during archery.

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This crossbow 'arguement' is reminicent of when compound bows were trying to be legalized. All of the "purists" were all up in arms - "those things aren't bows and shouldn't be allowed"; Sound familiar?

Now, I'll bet most all who were chanting that manta use compounds.

Crossbows are just that, bows. You still can't ethically shoot more than 40 yards. They should be legal in bow season and I regularly write my representatives and tell them so,

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I hope that they just come to some type of legislation next year that will permit the use of crossbow during regular archery in New York State. I have not been able to archery hunt this year due to secondery side effects in the bone and muscle in my arms and hands from cancer, and even if I beat this cancer the side effects may be permanent. I can't pull a compound bow back or hold due to this. Why should I be denied the right to archery hunt with a crossbow because of the minority few don't want the disabled or handicap or anyone else for that matter to be in the woods when they are? Get with it politicians and the like in Albany and just get this thing settled. It will not be the end of the world for the minority few who don't like it. Good luck hunting everyone.

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I hope that they just come to some type of legislation next year that will permit the use of crossbow during regular archery in New York State. I have not been able to archery hunt this year due to secondery side effects in the bone and muscle in my arms and hands from cancer, and even if I beat this cancer the side effects may be permanent. I can't pull a compound bow back or hold due to this. Why should I be denied the right to archery hunt with a crossbow because of the minority few don't want the disabled or handicap or anyone else for that matter to be in the woods when they are? Get with it politicians and the like in Albany and just get this thing settled. It will not be the end of the world for the minority few who don't like it. Good luck hunting everyone.

You can apply for disability hunting and it will let you use crossbow during bow season

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Why don't you just buy a steady eddie?

Don't know what a steadie eddie is but my swivel arm was a complete diaster. What I ended up doing was after extensive physical therapy and some help I got my bow cranked way down and sighted. I'm able to pull it back for a shot or two now and hopefully as I progress I'll be able to gradually increase my poundage. I can't shoot in awkward positions and I get let my bow down so if I draw I have to shoot either at a deer or hopefully a soft spot on the ground that doesn't wreck my arrow. I'm fortunate in that aspect but unfornately for my father he will never recover fully from his neck surgery and will never again be a NY archer without a change in legislation

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New York state and NY bow hunters be damed. If I wanted to hunt with a crossbow I would go out squirrel hunting and if a deer came along that I wanted I would shoot it and go back and get my bow. Also if it is on my own land I would post so tight that a mouse couldn't get in and hunt with a crossbow. You just keep to yourself and tell no one what you hunting with and than there is no one to turn you in. I have a close friend that does this on his land and gets a buck every year. He used to let anyone hunt if they stopped and asked , but not now. He posted all his land three years ago and New York state be damed..He told me that when NY opens up crossbow in bow season, than he will let people hunt.

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I honestly don't care if they make crossbows legal for everyone or not but hunters with disablities need to be taken care of. I would hate to see a vet return from war with only one arm and not be able to hunt archery because of these poorly legislated laws. Because they way its currently written he would not be able to do archery.

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If I wanted to hunt with a crossbow I would go out squirrel hunting and if a deer came along that I wanted I would shoot it and go back and get my bow.

Geez Noodle, don't be saying things like that on here. It is possible that DEC people might stop in here every so often too see who is confessing to what.

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