Dom Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 When hunting areas that u ones only access is acrossed a water how do you get game to the other side,I guess just draging through the water to gut or not too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I have done that once when it was the only option. Didn't want to gut it then drag it through because I wasn't sure how clean the water was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I would pretty much drag it threw the water and then gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I probably wouldn't feel real good about dragging an opened up carcass through a swamp or other stagnant water. That feeling is not based on any particular known hazards, but it just would make me feel better if I left it buttoned up until after I got past the water. So, if I had the choice, I would wait until I got on the "home" side of the water before gutting the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hose it out good and it should be fine. The tenderloins only thing that would really be exposed and I always freeze my before I cook them to kill any parasites or bacteria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) We drag across a running stream in our one spot with no issues in the last 14 or so years. Deer float which makes the water crossing the easy part, the 12 foot bank we go up how ever is hard to get a deer up. Edited October 21, 2012 by Doewhacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If the water is running ill drag it through gutted, but if the water is stagnant i wouldn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covert Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When we've gotten deer when it was warm and we couldn't get out of camp right away we've gutted them and then thrown them right in a cold Adirondack stream to cool them down quicker. Haven't gotten sick yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooly Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 When we've gotten deer when it was warm and we couldn't get out of camp right away we've gutted them and then thrown them right in a cold Adirondack stream to cool them down quicker. Haven't gotten sick yet. Yup, never had a problem swimming them through Erie County waters either. We've used the crick to rinse our gutted carcasses for 30+ years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave6x6 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hose it out good and it should be fine. The tenderloins only thing that would really be exposed and I always freeze my before I cook them to kill any parasites or bacteria G & R Cop Just so you know, freezing does not kill most bacteria or parasites... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 G & R Cop Just so you know, freezing does not kill most bacteria or parasites... Dave not to get into yes it does no it does not but it does kill most parasites and a lot of bacteria . Thats why sushi restraunts freeze and thaw everything before they serve it raw. Obviously the best way to kill these is heat but if you don't like yours well done you should freeze it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave6x6 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Dave not to get into yes it does no it does not but it does kill most parasites and a lot of bacteria . Thats why sushi restraunts freeze and thaw everything before they serve it raw. Obviously the best way to kill these is heat but if you don't like yours well done you should freeze it. Don't want to debate either but the fact remains. Unless you have a deep flash freezer as commercial sushi providers do, you will not kill most parasites. And unless your trusting hunting forum posts or the missiouri venison king, freezing will not kill most bacteria as well. Of course i'm not saying it is not a good idea to do so, as freezing will halt the growth at that level. A level if handled properly that most humans can handle. E-coli is also not killed by freezing. Once the meat is thawed, the bacteria will re-start it's growth process once again. Also Salmonella will survive freezing. When Freezing meat follow the old saying.. Quality in quality out . Garbage in Garbage out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 How many people caught Salmonella from venision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave6x6 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Just added the salmonella FACT in to more emphasize the risks of relying on freezing to protect you from food bourne illnesses. Again, i agree with you, in that it is the best proceedure to freeze your venison. Just not willing to count on it after i dragged my carcass through the swamp. Or after you gut shoot a deer and let him lay over night. Just saying Freezing is not saving you from potential problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
covert Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Cold doesn't even bother Listeria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Just added the salmonella FACT in to more emphasize the risks of relying on freezing to protect you from food bourne illnesses. Again, i agree with you, in that it is the best proceedure to freeze your venison. Just not willing to count on it after i dragged my carcass through the swamp. Or after you gut shoot a deer and let him lay over night. Just saying Freezing is not saving you from potential problems. Coming from a guy in the food biz that is sound advice and spot on. Just try to avoid unneeded risks with meat of any kind, cook to proper temp and or cool to proper temp and enjoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I like mine well done so I don't have fear of any of this but I wouldn't fear gutting it and dragging it through water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 When hunting areas that u ones only access is acrossed a water how do you get game to the other side,I guess just draging through the water to gut or not too? Just make sure to drag it by it legs. I've been told that it's disrespectful to throw a rope around it's neck. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I like mine well done so I don't have fear of any of this but I wouldn't fear gutting it and dragging it through water. WELL DONE!!!! shame on you for ruining good meat that way..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I don't drag by the neck, I carry them out on a alter made of fine cloth and nice prefume before I throw a celebratiion feast in the deers honor for its noble sacrifice. THen I hang it by the neck and hack the $h1T out of it with a knife!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doewhacker Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 hahaha nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I always freeze my before I cook them to kill any parasites or bacteria All I'm going to say is...I so WOULD NOT DO THAT WITH BEAR/ Wild Hog MEAT...thinking it killed the parasites...one could end up with trichinosis if not cooked properly What can be done to prevent the spread of trichinosis? The best prevention is to make sure that pork products are properly cooked. The desirable temperature is at least 150 degrees Fahrenheit. Storing infected meat in a freezer with a temperature no higher than -13 degrees Fahrenheit for 10 days will also destroy the parasite. Pretty sure my freezer isn't quite that cold...is yours???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns&ReligionCop Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 nope mines in only -12.5 I guess that I'm infected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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