G-Man Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 they are refering to a modern hand gun, a single shot pistol that is a muzzleloader is a muzzleloader. you can call the local office and they will tell you this. it is also in the description of a muzzleloader in dec regs. although you still require a pistol permit to fire it. it can be bought with out a permit in nys "yes its a loophole" in pistol permit laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 to bad you cant carry a pistol during muzzleloader season. You can as long as it is a single shot muzzle loader pistol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tughillhunter Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 so i can buy one, but cant shoot it? thats queer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Q: I have a pistol permit, may I carry my handgun while deer or bear hunting with a muzzleloader? A: No. While muzzleloader hunting during a special muzzleloader season for deer or bear, you may not possess a firearm of any description. hmmmmmmm................ THey are not alking about ML pistols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 from dec regs......The legal firearm for this season is a muzzleloading rifle or pistol (including smoothbore muzzleloaders) loaded through the muzzle, shooting a single projectile and having a bore of .44 inches or larger. Double-barreled muzzleloaders and percussion cap revolvers are not legal during the special muzzleloading season. If you hunt with a single-shot muzzleloading pistol, you must have a New York State Pistol License. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 pistol permit regs state once you have means to load and fire the pistol it must be registered... loop hole lets you buy but not shoot, comes in handy when you already have gun for when you take permit class, as you are only alloted so much time to put gun on permit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Q: I have a pistol permit, may I carry my handgun while deer or bear hunting with a muzzleloader? A: No. While muzzleloader hunting during a special muzzleloader season for deer or bear, you may not possess a firearm of any description. hmmmmmmm................ If its a muzzleloading pistol, you surely can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 If its a muzzleloading pistol, you surely can. single shot ML pistol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tughillhunter Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 i see that now. my bad fellas. i dont have much knowledge on the pistol thing. maybe i should shut up and read everything first. sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 No Problem. The ML Pistols is something not may use and the state laws don't make it any easier to keep track of.; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefbkt Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I actually asked the DEC officer when he stopped into camp a few years ago. He said it was perfectly legal. I have 2 muzzleloaders, one .50 cal and one .45 cal. Never brought them both out but nice to know I can if I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Why not just carry a ML and a Crossbow? Shoot the closer deer with the xbow and the farther deer with the ML. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 That would be fun, but i don't have a crossbow(not sure if thats legal to carry both ) but i have 11 muzzleloaders including pistols, and shotguns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blur Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Can you carry your regular rifle to go coyote hunting ? or other small game hunting ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Do you carry the pistol in a holster? Sounds interesting. It would be nice to have if a situation arises, like putting a deer down quickly if it still needed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Yes i have custom holsters for my blackpowder pistols. ,no to your regular rifle for coyote, single shot muzzleloaders only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 carrying 2 muzzloaders, is it really that important to you? what happened to just trying to enjoy the hunt. its enough of a pain in the arse loading, unloading, swabing, dry patchin, one muzzloader. and carrying the weight of an extra arm into the hills? carry one gun n take yer shot and make it count man!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 carrying 2 muzzloaders, is it really that important to you? what happened to just trying to enjoy the hunt. its enough of a pain in the arse loading, unloading, swabing, dry patchin, one muzzloader. and carrying the weight of an extra arm into the hills? carry one gun n take yer shot and make it count man!! Don't waste your time, i tried making that point earlier in the thread . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Sounded like he was asking if it was legal or not. Don't believe he was looking for opinions/points on whether or not any one other than himself would do so. Also didn't sound as if he was concerned with not making the 1st shot count - but rather having a faster 2nd shot at an additional deer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I love having just one shot. I'd like to see the gun season trimed to 2 weeks, then have 2 weeks for black powder. My T/C White Mountain Carbine in 54 cal cap lock with open sites is my favorite deer gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setters4life Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 His name was Jeremiah Johnson, and they say he wanted to be a mountain man. The story goes that he was a man of proper wit and adventurous spirit, suited to the mountains. Nobody knows where abouts he come from and don't seem to matter much. He was a young man and ghosty stories about the tall hills didn't scare him none. He was looking for a Hawken gun, .50 caliber or better. He settled for a .30, but damn, it was a genuine Hawken, and you couldn't go no better. Bought him a good horse, and traps, and other truck that went with being a mountain man, and said good-bye to whatever life was down there below. Love that Movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setters4life Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Hatchet Jack saw to it that JJ got his .50 cal. Hawken - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nqxIdROsI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Gotta hae a 50 for Grizz...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) As for the weight, i can carry 2 pistols and be lighter and more manuerable with them especially on snowshoes,leave my arms free for the ski poles i use on steep slopes, a rifle and pistol are good when just sitting, close shot use pistol, far shot rifle. don't be hate ing cause i own more than one and like to use them..... lol! Ever miss due to a unseen limb? and wish you could get a second shot and while reloading the buck of a lifetime runs away? i did once... it happend again and bang! second shot got it! no reloading required. its legal to do, it doesn't say you have to carry only one.and its nice to come back having your deer with only one being fired! As for i only need 1 shot crowd i hope you bow hunt and only take 1 arrow with you...its the same thing isn't it? Edited December 7, 2012 by G-Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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