dbHunterNY Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 NYS Assemblyman Felix Ortiz from Brooklyn thinks everyone with a gun should be forced to have a $1,000,000 liability insurance policy. Feel free to let his office know what you think about that.... 404 55th Street Brooklyn, NY 11220 718-492-6334 http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld&bn=A03908&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Text=Y&Votes=Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apoallo Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 my head hurts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 This guy is a fool. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn-dem-felix-ortiz-ban-salt-new-york-restaurants-article-1.175126 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I really don't think there's any hope for these politicians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterman7956 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 someone please make a list of these jerky people so come voting time we can vote them out ! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Wondering if this guy will get a vig from the insurance company that will issue coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 These politicians are all way out of control and I see no end in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 These politicians are all way out of control and I see no end in sight. I agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmig2 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 What a buffoon. Remember these idiots vote for their own pay raises so vote them out as hunterman said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 these politician have no boundaries in these outlandish wants and needs. whats scary is we have all these politicians trying to control something they have not the slightest clue on. 90% of them never even fired a gun so who are they to say whats rash and not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 these politician have no boundaries in these outlandish wants and needs. whats scary is we have all these politicians trying to control something they have not the slightest clue on. 90% of them never even fired a gun so who are they to say whats rash and not? Exactly. . . Every time a politician talks about guns, its obvious that he/she has no idea what they are talking about. Watch the Diane Fienstine interview with Bill Schieffer on face the nation. She is either a bold faced liar or a total moron. Either way these are the type of idiots we have dictating gun laws to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe12 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 If you hear them use the term "assault rifle" it means that they have not a clue about guns. I don't know any knowledgeable gun owner that would ever use the term "assault rifle". Jessie Jackson recently said that semi-automatic rifles should all be banned because they could be used to shoot down airplanes or to blow up trains. I was hoping someone would then ask him about bolt actions, lever, actions, or single shots because they shoot the same ammunition. Statements like that show that the people proposing and sometimes making the laws are as clueless as could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmkay Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 two points to add: (1) how is it constitutional to require someone to buy insurance to exercise a constitutional right? (2) all the people murdered with firearms in America are victims of wrongful death and thus their heirs are already free to sue the responsible parties (murders). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I am constantly amazed at all the different ways that these guys come up with just to mess with that pesky ol' 2nd Amendment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pav2704 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Since Congress seems to have the ability to pass legislature with such eases, does anybody know how much these insurance policies would cost??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 The most disturbing part of the bill is "SPECIFICALLY COVERING ANY DAMAGES RESULT- 7 ING FROM ANY NEGLIGENT OR WILLFUL ACTS INVOLVING THE USE OF SUCH FIREARM 8 WHILE IT IS OWNED BY SUCH PERSON." Will your insurance be used to provide medical coverage or death benefits to a burglar that you shoot while in your house? Imagine your premium increases then!!! I have seen estimates of $165 per $100,000 of coverage. I don't know it that is unit cost or if there is an economy of scale. but if it is a per unit cost then 10 units would be required and could build to an annual cost of $1,650 per year. I bet that the number of firearms you own would increase a premium and who knows what insurance companies would use as a basis to judge your risk factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo711 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I just called to talk to Mr. Ortiz. He wasn't there so I left my number with his secretary so we will see if he calls back. She was surprised when I told her I was from upstate, but that I was not the first one to call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Sorry you S.O.B. of a politician but im NOT going to buy a 1,000,000 dollar insurance policy... there aint no WAY i could afford it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 i find some of these outlandish proposals so BOGUS. Honestly pass it, the more bogus BS they pass the less i want to follow suit. There are loopholes in just about everything. Unless they amend the constitution to state in order to bare arms you need Ins. i will never do it. theres going to come a point where WE the people will need to make a stand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 If this passes, I will open my NYS Firearm Insurance. Everybody on this site can pay me for their insurance coverage. It will be $10/year per person regardless of the amount of guns. Please do me a favor and don't screw up and do something wrong. If you ever actually need the insurance, don't try to find me. I will disappear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 the secretary was surprised because they're in a separate world down there in NYC. also, yea i looked into the cost a little bit too and it'll most likely cost a lot. many may not be able to afford it. also, insurance is too subjective with something not established like this. not so much worried about this being passed as much as making sure it does not go unnoticed. can't have it slip through like the SAFE ACT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckersdaddy Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 two points to add: (1) how is it constitutional to require someone to buy insurance to exercise a constitutional right? (2) all the people murdered with firearms in America are victims of wrongful death and thus their heirs are already free to sue the responsible parties (murders). its not an insurance policy its a tax (supreme court ruling on obama care) so yes in that respect they can make you buy 'insurance'. now how that tax is used....taxes on firearms go to outdoor funds...thats the part they dont understand. they wont get the money. if someone explained that to them they wouldnt push this agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I think its all just part if the antis' ploy. They wont go door to door collecting guns, they will just try to find way$ that will make buying and possessing guns so expensive, that a lot of gun owners will just say "screw it" and give up. I don't think they realize what a high noncompliance rate they will have with their goofy leftist laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunter49 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Its not just about the insurance part of this bill . Think about it ,to insure your guns you would need to give; the manufacture, model, ser.# of each & every gun, = GUN REGISTRATION!! I also read/heard its a $million policy on each gun you own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 these politician have no boundaries in these outlandish wants and needs. whats scary is we have all these politicians trying to control something they have not the slightest clue on. 90% of them never even fired a gun so who are they to say whats rash and not? I just heard a clip on the radio. Nancy (The face ) Palosi just said that she believes that under the FIRST amendment, people have a right to keep a gun to protect themselves. OMG!!! They just get in front of the camera and flap their gums. It doesn't matter what comes out ....just talk. They think we are all morons that will buy what ever they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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