CuseHunter Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 So I had my bow professionally tuned, it shoots amazing. I have a nice 3 inch groups at 30 yards with field points. Got a pack of slick trick mags and loved them. The group at first was like 4 inches to the left. So I adjusted my rest to the right and they were on from that point foreword. Shot a great group at 30 yards with them. So good that I put the three arrows so close that the broadhead went in the same hole and hit the other head and cut off the fletching. So after taking the bow out hunting open week 4 times, I figured I should double check at my house to make sure everything is still on. Shot at my target and was so off to the left it missed and went into my fence. Figuring maybe somehow I just pulled a shot or something, aimed to the right of center 3 inches and just made it into the archery block dead on elevation, off to the left 6 inches. Thinking I bumped my sights or something I shot my field tips and they flew right into bullseye. So it is definitely a broad head issue. Anyone know what's wrong? About to give up using fixed blade and go to a rage. But really wanted to try out these slick tricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 When you sighted in your bow for broadheads did you do alot of shooting that day?When I sight in with broadheads I make somewhat of a day out of it.I do stuff around the house and every half hour go take "fresh shots". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 if you go with a mechanical check out Ulmer Edge,frickin awesome head.I have never really liked 4 blade heads becasue I could never get them to fly good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Flinger Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 if you go with a mechanical check out Ulmer Edge,frickin awesome head.I have never really liked 4 blade heads becasue I could never get them to fly good X2! The only broadheads I've ever had a problem with always seemed to be the 4 blade ones, not all of them but some. I don't know what it is but maybe the have a tendency to plane more being 4 blades. It could also be that you didn't tighten your rest down good when you adjusted it the first time, you could be getting fletching contact or for some reason you're torqueing the bow. All these issues don't show themselves as bad with field points, but put a fixed blade on and they'll show for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade Hunter Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Go get the rage! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmil6184 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 If you broadheads and field points are that far off, that suggests your bow is out of tune. After made the adjustment to your rest, did you should field points again to confirm they were hitting the same as your broadheads? Are you sure you snugged your rest back up tight after you made the adjustment? I like to mark the rest, so I can tell if something moved. a 1/16th of an inch movement of your rest might not even be noticable, but can have a huge impact on arrow flight, especially with a fixed blade. Might also want to have someone double check your form. You might have developed a little form problem that you haven't noticed, and having another person watching might help detect it (dropping your bow hand, plucking the string, etc.) Just switching to a rage might get your arrows to fly with your broadheads, but if it is a tuning issue you haven't really "fixed" anything, and you will not be maximizing the performance of your bow. Let us know if you are able to figure it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share Posted October 6, 2013 If you broadheads and field points are that far off, that suggests your bow is out of tune. After made the adjustment to your rest, did you should field points again to confirm they were hitting the same as your broadheads? Are you sure you snugged your rest back up tight after you made the adjustment? I like to mark the rest, so I can tell if something moved. a 1/16th of an inch movement of your rest might not even be noticable, but can have a huge impact on arrow flight, especially with a fixed blade. Might also want to have someone double check your form. You might have developed a little form problem that you haven't noticed, and having another person watching might help detect it (dropping your bow hand, plucking the string, etc.) Just switching to a rage might get your arrows to fly with your broadheads, but if it is a tuning issue you haven't really "fixed" anything, and you will not be maximizing the performance of your bow. Let us know if you are able to figure it out. After my adjustment to tune, I did shoot my field points and they both were spot on. I did snug my rest back tight. And it hasn't moved since because I have the qad HD which has the markings. I've been working on my form and think its good now. But don't know how I can go from perfect groups then go to a fixed broadhead and be 8 inches off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysarchery67 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Rage Sent from my MB886 using Forum Fiend v1.0.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sits in trees Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Get rid of them things, I used to go thru the same nonsense about 15 yrs ago, then I gabbed some Rocket mechanicals and never looked back, gave away all my Thunderheads. The Rockets will hit right where your field points of the same weight do every time. Get some of their Hammerheads and toss those fixed blades. You will shoot field points right up to the time you go hunting and never have to practice with broadheads and retune your bow,, http://www.trophyridge.com/broadheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Some fixed broadheads fly differently. I got lucky with my crimson talons. No adjustment needed Sent from Outer Space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-150 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) I think you are supposed to adjust your sight pins if your shooting to the left move the sight to the left, if your shooting low, move the sight lower ,not the arrow rest. Edited October 6, 2013 by F-150 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 I think you are supposed to adjust your sight pins if your shooting to the left move the sight to the left, if your shooting low, move the sight lower ,not the arrow rest. Thats what i do. Normally dont ever move my rest Sent from Outer Space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Thats what i do. Normally dont ever move my rest Sent from Outer Space That's right . Move the sight not the rest . If you start moving the rest you could have clearance problems . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncountry Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 In theory. A perfectly tuned bow will stack broadheads with fieldpoints..some bows seem to be more finicky than others with tune..if everything else is good moving the rest when broadhead tuning will help bring them to the same point of impact.. But ...cam lean ,hand torque,and a whole list of other thing effect it also... I ended up switching to mech heads a few years ago because of poor tune.. I'm back to fixed blade heads after a new set of strings and a professional tune.. As much as I follow this stuff I'm still not capable of fine tuning my bow(seems to be one ofthe trickier ones) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Surprised at how many people are giving advice to "fix" the problem by going mechanicals and/or moving the sight! Get that bow paper tuned! X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-150 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Did you buy your bow from a local archery dealer ? If you did talk to them some bows may take a certain broadhead. I uisually ask Mike at Belmont Archery before I buy something to see if it works well with my bow and the way I shoot. I also shoot a winter paper league at his shop sometimes my form changes the way the arrows fly some groups are nice and tight and others look like I used a scatter gun. I have been shooting a bow now for 19 years , it is a lot more technical than I ever imagined ! Good Luck!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbonelement Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 walk back tune your bow...start at 20 aim for whatever than move to 25 aim same spot 30 same spot 35...40. the arrows should be in a vertical line if they are not then adjust your rest....arrows ina line like this / move rest to right, if they are the opp do the opp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I used to have arrows shooting anything but straight when i mounted broad heads to them , my RAGE shoot the same as my field points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Try these, made local and are very good. http://deadringerhunting.com/blog/tag/Broadheads%20Press%20Release/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 walk back tune your bow...start at 20 aim for whatever than move to 25 aim same spot 30 same spot 35...40. the arrows should be in a vertical line if they are not then adjust your rest....arrows ina line like this / move rest to right, if they are the opp do the oppI just read this in a long archery tuning article and will be doing it. It my broad heads don't fly right after that I'm done and will go to a mechanical head. Either way I'm going to my archery shop (legends of the fall) this weekend because I just paid them $29 to install a d loop and cut 3 arrows After buying the bow from and and paying for new cables and strings I think they should be able to help me without making me she'll out more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Pricy for a D loop and 3 arrows cut. Good luck with the bow and shop. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Flinger Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I just read this in a long archery tuning article and will be doing it. It my broad heads don't fly right after that I'm done and will go to a mechanical head. Either way I'm going to my archery shop (legends of the fall) this weekend because I just paid them $29 to install a d loop and cut 3 arrows After buying the bow from and and paying for new cables and strings I think they should be able to help me without making me she'll out more money. The shops around here all suck! Hopefully you wont get one of the kids to work on your bow. The couple times I've been there everyone looked like they were higher than a kite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeBugg Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Another reason i try an work on my own stuff! Sent from Outer Space 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't mind paying a slight mark up for my gear to buy from local business, especially when there is knowledgable pro staff. But when it gets to the point of having to get nickel and dimed, really looking to switch to AJ's archery. Seems like a good place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loworange88 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 I don't mind paying a slight mark up for my gear to buy from local business, especially when there is knowledgable pro staff. But when it gets to the point of having to get nickel and dimed, really looking to switch to AJ's archery. Seems like a good place. Watch yourself at AJ's. Every time I've ever been there, they push top shelf items only. And ther prices are REDICULOUSLY HIGH! Plus the staff are not very personable. I work in Cazenovia, and that place has a reputation for what I just said, many of the people I work with all warned me not to go there, I had to find out for myself. Just FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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