dbHunterNY Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 no idea.... all I know is I used to use screw steps but here and there they'd get ahead of me. tree would grow into them too much to unscrew them. also you need a lot of them. when you unscrew them a little or take them out and put them back in they aren't as tight. now I use individual climbing sticks and they're way easier. that's on private land. on public land I always use my climber as it's less to haul into a spot. if you leave anything it gets stolen. also it doesn't tip others off to where you're hunting. it will kill the tree eventually on public land because you have to remove them after each season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markpowell369 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Has anyone in this chat ever shot a 460 snub nose ravalver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 What is a "revalver" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pistolp71 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Must be some sort of valve.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Has anyone in this chat ever shot a 460 snub nose ravalver yes..one time off of screw in steps on State Land, all I can say is I'll never do that again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunnus Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Anyone who gives a bad name to hunters by doing something illegal or merely unethical (like a shot at the end of your range/one you aren't sure of) hurts us all. Obey the law regardless of fines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust1578 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 Who exactly do you thinks gives a crap if you screw a step into a tree really! Why are they even made then? It's ok to use them on private land but not public. I mean listen to yourself! Once again the question was how much was the penalty! Why do you some of you guys feel that your OPINIONS matter. Can't wait for the replies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I have a friend that uses screw in steps on state land in the ADKS takes them out after he is done. But "he" also doesn't set his cruise at 64mph on the highway and one time he loaded 8 rounds in his 10/22. so "he" is sort of an outlaw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust1578 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 I have a friend that uses screw in steps on state land in the ADKS takes them out after he is done. But "he" also doesn't set his cruise at 64mph on the highway and one time he loaded 8 rounds in his 10/22. so "he" is sort of an outlaw![/quoteNice breaking the law,breaking the law lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 Who exactly do you thinks gives a crap if you screw a step into a tree really! Why are they even made then? It's ok to use them on private land but not public. I mean listen to yourself! Once again the question was how much was the penalty! Why do you some of you guys feel that your OPINIONS matter. Can't wait for the replies. You ask a question and after getting several state responses state , "Why do you some of you guys feel that your OPINIONS matter." If you are dissatisfied with the responses , why don't you call the DEC and get their response ? And while you are at it , tell them how stupid you think it is that having screw in steps in a tree being illegal . Then you have your answer ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust1578 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 You ask a question and after getting several state responses state , "Why do you some of you guys feel that your OPINIONS matter." If you are dissatisfied with the responses , why don't you call the DEC and get their response ? And while you are at it , tell them how stupid you think it is that having screw in steps in a tree being illegal . Then you have your answer ! Already did call and got my answer. This is right now is just entertaining! With the exception of a few members here who understood the question, I will never post a question again! Happy Thanksgiving too all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 (edited) Already did call and got my answer. This is right now is just entertaining! With the exception of a few members here who understood the question, I will never post a question again! Happy Thanksgiving too all! Did you offer to pay ahead? Edited November 27, 2014 by SteveB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowshotmuzzleloader Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 I think he just said " screw you " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faust1578 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 Did you offer to pay ahead? Nope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooly Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Nope! Do us all a favor and stick to your public land spots. If you can't follow a very simple rule there, I don't expect you would be very considerate of a landowners request of how he would appreciate you behave on his private property. Public land is shared by many other outdoor enthusiasts year round outside of hunting season. By giving other groups the wrong impression of how hunters treat the land that has been set aside for everyone isn't going to do any of us any good. Guys with your "who gives a shit" attitude don't usually last long on private land before they're sent packing and that should piss off anyone who's ever been denied access due to landowners perception of how "hunters" treat land that is not their own. Edited November 28, 2014 by wooly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) This one has been very entertaining. Please faust, don't stop asking questions. I am looking forward to more. I like to shake my head, rolls my eyes, and stare in disbelief....It is good to keep the human mind in wonder thinking: "Really? Did they just ask that?" EDIT: Oh, and I am selling a stand with some screw in steps. Wanna just buy the steps? Edited November 28, 2014 by JustRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) what's the fine for shooting a deer a few minutes after sunset......I may shoot a few more deer if it's cheap enough.....if you ask a silly question, you gotta be able to take the silly answers. Edited November 28, 2014 by jjb4900 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 He asked a simple question. I guarantee everyone here has broken the speed limit at one point in our lives. I guarantee if the punishment for speeding was the death penalty that wouldn't happen, but we all know ifts a measly fine or a warning. There is ABSOLUTLY no difference. Almost all of you are hypocrites Unless you live a perfect life and have never once knowingly broke a law. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 He asked a simple question. I guarantee everyone here has broken the speed limit at one point in our lives. I guarantee if the punishment for speeding was the death penalty that wouldn't happen, but we all know ifts a measly fine or a warning. There is ABSOLUTLY no difference. Almost all of you are hypocrites Unless you live a perfect life and have never once knowingly broke a law. Why does everyone bring speed limits into these debates? The bottom line is this: Asking in a 'more or less' style, "What's the worst that happen if I break the law?" questions get old. If you have the will or want to break the law, do it. By all means, do it. What you do with your life is your decision. But advertising it? Yeah, that's frikin smart! Kind of like the thread I read when I was first roaming here and hadn't joined about the bullet proof vest. "Cmon! The line has to be drawn somewhere. Tolerance is one thing. Enabling is another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 The speed limit is ABSOLUTLY relevant, it's a law. If you lost your drivers licence for 5 years for speeding very few would speed. If putting a step in our trees could cost you your hunting licence for 5 years very few would do it. But it's a small fine or a warning so people will make the decision to put a step in a tree the state owns knowing the consequences just as tomorrow I will set my cruise at 71 on the highway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Well, then so is drinking and driving. How many of you have had 4 or 5 drinks at the local watering hole then drove? Thinking/saying "I'm fine!" When in reality, after 2, you are legally considered intoxicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Not sure if that is towards me justrob but I don't drink My point is everyone has chosen to break a law at some point in their lives knowing there is consequences. That is all. Edited November 28, 2014 by Buckmaster7600 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 No Buckmaster, not at you directly. But, if people want to keep using the speed limit thing, then the D&D thing is relevant as well. Just sayin............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Unfortunately you are correct! But it proves my point, people willingly choose to break laws daily. And to everyone responding as to how bad of a person/hunter the OP are hypocrites. Edited November 28, 2014 by Buckmaster7600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Where did I degrade, state faust was wrong, or otherwise really interfere with this thread? I never made a single derogatory comment. Did I? I made an observation, and offered to sell him tree steps. I did nothing wrong. You took the time to just hop on me, so I retaliated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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