Anyone else have property in the wind farm project zone?

[First-light]

I have a lease with Everpower.

 

http://everpower.com/baron-winds-wind-project-steuben-county-ny/

 

https://www.facebook.com/BaronWindsWindFarm

[jjb4900]

If I remember correctly you were tossing the idea around last year.....is it up and running yet?

[Doc]

I hope they are paying well for the destruction of the viewscape of some of our most prized vistas. Oh, but then most of the people who have to look at those huge whirly-gigs don't get a cent do they?  

[jjb4900]

I hope they are paying well for the destruction of the viewscape of some of our most prized vistas. Oh, but then most of the people who have to look at those huge whirly-gigs don't get a cent do they?  

is it really any worse then those filthy outdoor furnaces that are out there that people set up on their lawns with giant stacks of wood that belch their filthy smoke into the air? those aren't pretty to look at and smell either.

[growalot]

Well I can't see those from 10 miles away...so no..And they only run in the winter...usually

[jjb4900]

Well I can't see those from 10 miles away...so no..And they only run in the winter...usually

I was thinking more along the lines of environmentally wise....neither are appealing to the eye or sense of smell....I still think they are better then what would have happened if the natural gas fracking was allowed.

[thphm]

They were trying to put them up in our town and the surrounding town people got together and voted against them , 99% of the people.And  that put a Squash to that.

[growalot]

Well I'll hold my opinion and keep my no wind farm signs up and if need be be at all the meetings to fight them in this area again, should they try...That said...not too worried, since a few towns over they said sure why not..and then once in...well not so cool for even some of those lease holders..go figure...

[jjb4900]

is there any state regulation on them, or is it just sign up and they install? I know that local input can stop it in it's tracks...so just curious.

[Doc]

is it really any worse then those filthy outdoor furnaces that are out there that people set up on their lawns with giant stacks of wood that belch their filthy smoke into the air? those aren't pretty to look at and smell either.

Actually, dozens of white structures the size of some of Rochester's skyscrapers, clustered throughout the wooded hills are really quite difficult (make that impossible) to ignore. They truly do dominate the view-scape that used to be something pleasant, rare and treasured to look at. So yes, they are much more invasive than outdoor furnaces. Perhaps if the stacks on the outdoor furnaces reached 300' - 400' and were topped with huge whirling blades, and were clustered throughout the entire wooded area, that might not be true. However, while there are many ways to screw up the environment, and perhaps there are a lot of them that should be independently studied, the topic here was windmill corporations that are exploiting small towns of the Finger Lakes.

[First-light]

If I remember correctly you were tossing the idea around last year.....is it up and running yet?

I signed a few years ago along with my neighbors. My current view has 27 wind turbines in it. They are about 5-7 miles away as the crow flies. They are unique and I have gotten used to them. They blend in pretty well with the sky. Actually they are most noticeable at night with the blinking red lights. The Town of Howard and the surrounding areas are doing quite well with the investment in wind power. I'm not here to debate it and won't get involved. I made my decision after thoroughly researching the Power company and its past projects. Right down to visiting a wind farm in all type of wether conditions.  

Edited January 28, 2015 by First-light

[jjb4900]

Actually, dozens of white structures the size of some of Rochester's skyscrapers, clustered throughout the wooded hills are really quite difficult (make that impossible) to ignore. They truly do dominate the view-scape that used to be something pleasant, rare and treasured to look at. So yes, they are much more invasive than outdoor furnaces. Perhaps if the stacks on the outdoor furnaces reached 300' - 400' and were topped with huge whirling blades, and were clustered throughout the entire wooded area, that might not be true. However, while there are many ways to screw up the environment, and perhaps there are a lot of them that should be independently studied, the topic here was windmill corporations that are exploiting small towns of the Finger Lakes.

I know I went off topic, and I don't live up there or have to look at it so I probably shouldn't even comment, but the bottom line is people are looking for ways to make and save money all at the cost of the environment......but like I said, it's not in my backyard so I'm not going to comment any further.

[Doc]

Driving south on Main Street Naples, those things are the very first thing that you see. They don't blend in with anything. You cannot get used to them to the point where the view looks anything like it did before they were plunked in there. They are a scar on the landscape that perhaps can be enjoyed only by those collecting cash from that kind of exploitation. Many in the surrounding towns did not knuckle under to the threats and pressures of these power companies and have successfully beat them back ..... for now.

[growalot]

First light I have no problem with your signing hey best to you on that...I know where you are and they have been in that farm country a long time(relatively speaking...cousins farm has a few...I will say this though..for all the talk these initial companys have on setting aside decommissioning funds...most of that is just a drop in the bucket as to the real cost to get rid of them when they no longer are cost effective...so who do you think these towns will go after to accomplish this? I'm figuring the land owners

[Doc]

I know I went off topic, and I don't live up there or have to look at it so I probably shouldn't even comment, but the bottom line is people are looking for ways to make and save money all at the cost of the environment......but like I said, it's not in my backyard so I'm not going to comment any further.

I like to hear opinions on any subject. It is hard to appreciate without actually seeing these monstrosities, particularly if you were there before they took over the hills.

 

I tend to get a bit opinionated on the subject since I was neck deep in the effort to keep these things out of our town. But I do not want to discourage any discussion. That's pretty much what we do here .... lol.

[landtracdeerhunter]

I hope they are paying well for the destruction of the viewscape of some of our most prized vistas. Oh, but then most of the people who have to look at those huge whirly-gigs don't get a cent do they?  

 

People thought that way about power lines, years ago.

 

You could have one of those concrete nuclear turkey calls in your view.

 

Edited January 28, 2015 by landtracdeerhunter

[hunter49]

   FYI, Not to steal you thread, but "they" are also talking about putting up 60 - 70 windmills from Yates to Somerset on the shores of lake Ontario between Rt. 18 & Lakeshore rd.

[jjb4900]

I like to hear opinions on any subject. It is hard to appreciate without actually seeing these monstrosities, particularly if you were there before they took over the hills.

 

I tend to get a bit opinionated on the subject since I was neck deep in the effort to keep these things out of our town. But I do not want to discourage any discussion. That's pretty much what we do here .... lol.

not a problem and I took no offense in the least bit.....like I said, it's not my backyard so I really shouldn't comment as far as that goes.

[First-light]

First light I have no problem with your signing hey best to you on that...I know where you are and they have been in that farm country a long time(relatively speaking...cousins farm has a few...I will say this though..for all the talk these initial companys have on setting aside decommissioning funds...most of that is just a drop in the bucket as to the real cost to get rid of them when they no longer are cost effective...so who do you think these towns will go after to accomplish this? I'm figuring the land owners

I'll have a hell of a deer stand won't I!! lol

[Mr VJP]

I'm curious to know if the enviro groups and conservationists have been involved in the opposition to these wind mills.  From what I've heard, they have a history of killing many large birds, raptors and even bald eagles.

 

If we are concerned about lead ammo and fracking in NY, shouldn't there be a big objection to wind mills as well?

 

Edited January 28, 2015 by Mr VJP

[Pygmy]

I have to lean with Doc on this one...The damn things are unsightly..

 

I'm making no judgements toward landowners who have them...

 

I'm just glad that I don't have to look at any of them in the areas where I hunt..

 

ANOTHER reason why I'm glad I won't have to live much longer...

Edited January 28, 2015 by Pygmy

[jjb4900]

I'm curious to know if the enviro groups and conservationists have been involved in the opposition to these wind mills.  From what I've heard, they have a history of killing many large birds, raptors and even bald eagles.

 

If we are concerned about lead ammo and fracking in NY, shouldn't there be a big objection to wind mills as well?

that's exactly why I asked about the regulating of them.....is the only thing that stops them the local opposition or is there an environmental opposition to them as well that would make the State step in much like fracking? I would think there has been environmental impact studies done, but maybe the benefit to the environment overall outweighs the detriment?

[philoshop]

Get off my lawn!

[First-light]

that's exactly why I asked about the regulating of them.....is the only thing that stops them the local opposition or is there an environmental opposition to them as well that would make the State step in much like fracking? I would think there has been environmental impact studies done, but maybe the benefit to the environment overall outweighs the detriment?

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/08/25/3475348/bird-death-comparison-chart/

[gastrodoc]

I agree with Doc on this one also. These things completely ruin the landscape. Naples and outside of Cohocton are two prime examples. They are really an eyesore. Sure, the landowners with leases may benefit but they certainly must lower surrounding property values. Who would want to buy a house right next to these things??