The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 He is weak on the economy and immigration. The second issue alone will sink anybody. His foreign policy appears to be more of the same also. I truly believe anyone that thinks we can deport 11MM people is smoking something. Path to citizenship is the only answer, along with securing the borders. Why not instantly create 11MM taxpayers since theyre here anyway and cant be sent back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I really don't like Christie. Seems to buddy buddy with Cuomo and I just get the feelign he would sell his other on the street corner for two bits. I didn't say I supported it or agreed with it, just that it seems to be the most likely course given the current political wind direction. ;-] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) I truly believe anyone that thinks we can deport 11MM people is smoking something. Smoking a large pipe of good American Virginian sense maybe. It's all just logistics and money. It's totally doable. And if illegals are made to pay taxes they won't have anything to send home on their paltry incomes. They will all go on welfare instead and still work under the counter. A double negative whammy to the economy. Most will lose their jobs anyway if they are required to be paid minimum wage. We are not talking engineers or scientists here. Edited March 11, 2016 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I truly believe anyone that thinks we can deport 11MM people is smoking something. Path to citizenship is the only answer, along with securing the borders. Why not instantly create 11MM taxpayers since theyre here anyway and cant be sent back I don't agree. You don't have to pick them all up. You just have to take away what is keeping and drawing them here. They will leave themselves if the $$$ dries up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marion Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Smoking a large pipe of good American Virginian sense maybe. It's all just logistics and money. It's totally doable. And if illegals are made to pay taxes they won't have anything to send home on their paltry incomes. They will all go on welfare instead and still work under the counter. A double negative whammy to the economy. Most will lose their jobs anyway if they are required to be paid minimum wage. We are not talking engineers or scientists here. The best plan and Trump's plan is to take away all benefits that illegals enjoy. Allow them nothing and they will eventually leave on their own. They are called illegal for a reason. That reason being THEY DO NOT BELONG HERE! You Can't Beat My Meat! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 So we arent deporting them, we are putting a plan in place to make them go home that will take years and years and years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I truly believe anyone that thinks we can deport 11MM people is smoking something. Path to citizenship is the only answer, along with securing the borders. Why not instantly create 11MM taxpayers since theyre here anyway and cant be sent back How do we create 11 Million tax payers?? Are there 11 Million jobs available for theses people?? Do all 11 mil. want to work??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 How do we create 11 Million tax payers?? Are there 11 Million jobs available for theses people?? Do all 11 mil. want to work??? what are they doing now? All i hear is that theyre doing jobs americans wont do and doing them under the table. Anyway im not debating whether they should be allowed to stay, just that anyone who says "round em up and send em home" is delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 So we arent deporting them, we are putting a plan in place to make them go home that will take years and years and years Hunger is a great motivator and won't take years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Hunger is a great motivator and won't take years. Will they go home, or resort to crime? Just playing devils advocate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Will they go home, or resort to crime? Just playing devils advocate not sure, but if they have family back across the boarder and the alternative to going home and being with them and supporting them, I gotta believe going back would be more enticing than behind bars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) So we arent deporting them, we are putting a plan in place to make them go home that will take years and years and years It's the 'do nothing' attitude that has got us here. If people had acted sooner it wouldn't be such a big job. But it's a job that has to happen now none the less.So be it if it takes a generation Edited March 11, 2016 by Papist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 what are they doing now? All i hear is that theyre doing jobs americans wont do and doing them under the table. Anyway im not debating whether they should be allowed to stay, just that anyone who says "round em up and send em home" is delusional What are they doing now?? Are they all tax payers?? So how do we create 11 million new tax payers?? How do we do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 How's this ........ We should invade Mexico and make it a huge vacation resort . Trump could put up a lot of beach front resorts . They would require cooks , waiters , maids , landscapers , etc and maybe the Mexicans would move back home and make 15 pesos an hour ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 How's this ........ We should invade Mexico and make it a huge vacation resort . Trump could put up a lot of beach front resorts . They would require cooks , waiters , maids , landscapers , etc and maybe the Mexicans would move back home and make 15 pesos an hour ! Genius. Our military could be put to good use taking out the cartels instead of propping up Saudi oil Barons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 How's this ........ We should invade Mexico and make it a huge vacation resort . Trump could put up a lot of beach front resorts . They would require cooks , waiters , maids , landscapers , etc and maybe the Mexicans would move back home and make 15 pesos an hour ! Then all the jobs that went to Mexico would be back in the US!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 It's the 'do nothing' attitude that has got us here. If people had acted sooner it wouldn't be such a big job. But it's a job that has to happen now none the less.So be it if it takes a generationdo nothing attitude? A path to amnesty and securing the borders is doing something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 What are they doing now?? Are they all tax payers?? So how do we create 11 million new tax payers?? How do we do that?Youre confusing me. They are working and not paying taxes. If we give them a path to citizenship, they start paying taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 And yes, you secure the borders, you crack down on employers that hire illegals, you deport, all of those things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt0217 Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Hey Uptown, wildcat. I saw you and the rest of you lefty nut jobs, on Fox News disrupting the Trump rally. Good Job! Your efforts are going to help Trump become president. Nice Job!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Trump protesters stomping on the flag. Says it all: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Anti-Trump Protesters BLOCK AMBULANCE in Chicago on Way to Hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELMER J. FUDD Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Well Pap, you can dress 'em up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 NEWS OF VIOLENT ANTI-TRUMP PROTESTERS BEING CENSORED BY TWITTER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Youre confusing me. They are working and not paying taxes. If we give them a path to citizenship, they start paying taxes. Not all of them are working . Many are on Welfare . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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