So the state of Pa...

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Wants to raise the wage of some in that state....$10.50 BUT only for Govt workers?  Go Figure!

 

Wonder what Andy thinks of that with his $15 a hour thoughts?

[philoshop]

What Andy thinks is what all Democrats think: Using other peoples' money (taxpayers') to increase your voter base is somehow normal political behavior. There's a wake-up call comin', and those folks aren't gonna be happy about it.

[Curmudgeon]

Cuomo - like a lot of downstaters - seems to have an unrealistic view of the rural economy.

 

I've know at least 2 people who turned down upstate jobs when they were just out of college because the wages were lower than they expected. They stayed in Rockland County and Brooklyn and certainly had a lower standard of living then they would have had upstate making less.

[Uptown Redneck]

Yes, it would be horrible to pay employees a wage that they could support themselves and their families on. After all we wouldn't want to take from the profits of the corporations who do such wonderful things for the country.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Yes, it would be horrible to pay employees a wage that they could support themselves and their families on. After all we wouldn't want to take from the profits of the corporations who do such wonderful things for the country.

 

You dont quite have a good handle on economics 101 do you?

[BizCT]

$10.50? You can make that working at a grocery store I would think. I remember making $8/hr and $12 on Sunday at Stop n Shop when I was in high school (2002).

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Edited March 7, 2016 by Biz-R-OWorld

[Four Season Whitetail's]

$10.50? You can make that working at a grocery store I would think. I remember making $8/hr and $12 on Sunday at Stop n Shop when I was in high school.

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If so you were paid way more than minimum wage at the time.  I like the Govt employee is the only one that gets the raise.part.

Andy has been going on for awhile about different raises which sure would not hurt but is just a corner of the big picture problem.

[BizCT]

If so you were paid way more than minimum wage at the time. I like the Govt employee is the only one that gets the raise.part.

Andy has been going on for awhile about different raises which sure would not hurt but is just a corner of the big picture problem.

I hear ya, but my point was why work for the PA govt then for that type of $?

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[nyantler]

Yes, it would be horrible to pay employees a wage that they could support themselves and their families on. After all we wouldn't want to take from the profits of the corporations who do such wonderful things for the country.

No.. it would be horrible to pay employees more than a rate for their job than the market will bare... which will put other employees out of work or replace all employees with automation. The government can not and should not dictate wages for private enterprise.. the employer establishes a wage and you decide whether you can live on that or not... if not, don't take that job! If the wages are too low, nobody will work for that employer and he will go out of business... If the wages are too high he will not be able to afford stay in business. Simple Business!

[Four Season Whitetail's]

No.. it would be horrible to pay employees more than a rate for their job than the market will bare... which will put other employees out of work or replace all employees with automation. The government can not and should not dictate wages for private enterprise.. the employer establishes a wage and you decide whether you can live on that or not... if not, don't take that job! If the wages are too low, nobody will work for that employer and he will go out of business... If the wages are too high he will not be able to afford stay in business. Simple Business!

True for some but far from true for most. The rich getting richer off the cheap labor of others.

[Lawdwaz]

I hear ya, but my point was why work for the PA govt then for that type of $?

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I'd bet the PA benefit program is a touch better than Stop & Shop................................ 

[BizCT]

I'd bet the PA benefit program is a touch better than Stop & Shop................................

Maybe, maybe not. I wasn't FT since I was a kid, but I remember the FT guys had a pretty good gig going both pay wise and benefits wise. Some of the guys were making close to 6 figures. Not bad for stacking for apples. I was in produce dept.

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[Lawdwaz]

Maybe, maybe not. I wasn't FT since I was a kid, but I remember the FT guys had a pretty good gig going both pay wise and benefits wise. Some of the guys were making close to 6 figures. Not bad for stacking for apples. I was in produce dept.

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Close to $100,000 to work in a grocery store?

 

 

This sounds like a tall tale...........

[BizCT]

Close to $100,000 to work in a grocery store?

This sounds like a tall tale...........

There was a guy when I worked there in 2002, who was 34 years old. He had 18 years in the company because they counted a bunch of years when he worked at Grand Union. He was making in the $70's. He was not a manager of produce, just a regular FT employee. We would stack fruit and veggies together. I'm sure managers of depts made more than him. Of course store managers make much more. Not a bad gig for no education needed.

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[philoshop]

I exercised thoroughbreds for a trainer at Finger Lakes Raceway when I was a kid, (14 or 15 years old). It was hard work and damned dangerous during the winter, but I could make $500 on a Saturday afternoon. That was after I ran my trap-line in the morning, of course

I think that job today has a minimum age of 21 and requires a couple years of college. And they no longer allow you to carry a small baseball bat to get the animal's attention.

[nyantler]

True for some but far from true for most. The rich getting richer off the cheap labor of others.

The rich getting richer by operating a profitable business and paying a wage excepted by the laborers when they took the job.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

The rich getting richer by operating a profitable business and paying a wage excepted by the laborers when they took the job.

Oh i am not totally disagreeing with you but you also know its a fact that some folks have to take on a job...any job...at any pay to get thru the month. They would have takin the job at 2 bucks an hour less because they have to...Even though the employer could very well pay 2 bucks more an hour than offered and still have a profitable business.  Hence the rich getting richer and it puts us just where we stand today. How many Americans live under the poverty level? Heck a question like that could turn into a 30 page political shootout.

 

The Donald will turn things around for many soon enough. Also turn things upside down for many.

[Curmudgeon]

Yes, it would be horrible to pay employees a wage that they could support themselves and their families on. After all we wouldn't want to take from the profits of the corporations who do such wonderful things for the country.

 

I grow Christmas trees. Would someone please pay me $15/hour? You want me to pay the hired help more than I get?

 

[chas0218]

Yes, it would be horrible to pay employees a wage that they could support themselves and their families on. After all we wouldn't want to take from the profits of the corporations who do such wonderful things for the country.

Where is that money going to come from? If you want to have affordable goods raising the wages will only drive the price of the products up. It is a circle, if one goes up the other must go up.

[chas0218]

There was a guy when I worked there in 2002, who was 34 years old. He had 18 years in the company because they counted a bunch of years when he worked at Grand Union. He was making in the $70's. He was not a manager of produce, just a regular FT employee. We would stack fruit and veggies together. I'm sure managers of depts made more than him. Of course store managers make much more. Not a bad gig for no education needed.

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Wow that must be one nice grocery store.

 

My father in law was a the meat manager for Big M (private owned store) he and 2 other guys ran the entire meat department. When he retired after having 40 years as the manager (he got the manager position when he was 18 and worked until he was 58) he was making 48,000 before taxes. He made a living and liked his job. He cut up deer on the side as hobby for a few years to help pay for his truck. 

 

With that being said the average walmart employee makes $10-$15/hr. I worked at walmart during college part time and when I left I was making $17.50 as a dairy department worker and managed 38hrs a week. The jobs are out there just no one wants to work for them.

[BizCT]

Wow that must be one nice grocery store.

My father in law was a the meat manager for Big M (private owned store) he and 2 other guys ran the entire meat department. When he retired after having 40 years as the manager (he got the manager position when he was 18 and worked until he was 58) he was making 48,000 before taxes. He made a living and liked his job. He cut up deer on the side as hobby for a few years to help pay for his truck.

With that being said the average walmart employee makes $10-$15/hr. I worked at walmart during college part time and when I left I was making $17.50 as a dairy department worker and managed 38hrs a week. The jobs are out there just no one wants to work for them.

Yea I had a good deal at stop n shop. If i worked more than 30 hours they would pay me my entire weeks worth at a FT rate which was somewhere in the high teens at the time. I was only 17-18 years old so it was great pay until I started bartending which worked out to much much more per hour

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[phade]

Close to $100,000 to work in a grocery store?

 

 

This sounds like a tall tale...........

 

My Aunt works for Publix as a manager - not a store manager, but a manager of loss prevention and front-end (think the customer service desk) for a particular area (5-6 stores).

 

She out-earns me 1.5:1 in base pay and her incentive comp is off the charts. Don't get me wrong, she has a demanding and impactful role. From a comparison, I do OK with about 65 FT employees and leaders who report to me, not including another 80 that I co-manage, in a $3B/yr. corporation. Her total compensation package distances me just shy of 2:1 in a given year. Granted she is in FL, but not in an area where cost of living difference is dramatic.

 

Grocery store careers are not necessarily paying peanuts. She soared past 100k many years ago - and without getting into specifics...it's not even close to 100k.

Edited March 8, 2016 by phade

[ELMER J. FUDD]

That's it! We need to shut down these evil corporate grocery stores! They are making too much money! Oh wait a minute, I'm hungry, how are we gonna eat?

[BizCT]

That's it! We need to shut down these evil corporate grocery stores! They are making too much money! Oh wait a minute, I'm hungry, how are we gonna eat?

I always heard flaggers got decent pay. Not sure how true that is. Seems pretty easy, but my brain would go to mush doing that everyday.

Garbagemen pull 6 figures and your done before lunchtime each day, though again not much use of the brain.

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[ApexerER]

Yes, it would be horrible to pay employees a wage that they could support themselves and their families on. After all we wouldn't want to take from the profits of the corporations who do such wonderful things for the country.

You can NOT government people into prosperity. The people that are making minimum wage are making it for a reason.