EspressoBuzz Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I doubt most people run after they're already stopped though Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Lavoy Finicum did! I can't remember the last time running actually worked. With today's vehicles some of which can be disabled via a wifi hack, to drones, choppers and traffic cameras you just can't get away. Or for that matter re-make Dirty Mary and Crazy Larry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Not only that the kid was in a truck not an atv the CO was on atv patrol. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk The kid was driving a truck?Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 66% and you don't get overtime. You generally can only sue for negligence and I don't think he has a case Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Cops are different, when hurt on the job. 100% for a certain time period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critter4321 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Regardless it all come down to RESPECT have it for your peers,elders and law enforcement no exceptions the laws are wrote the same way for everyone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'd tend to think disrespect and intentionally meaning to run the ECO over are very far apart with the later not being the case. Running the ECO over was probably a mistake. that said I hope the kid driver gets fit punishment. once it's all said and done and he's paid for his decisions, he drives it home. kid rolls up to the ECO's house on his own free will, takes his hat off before speaking to give a heart felt apology, and it's followed by the shaking of hands. Maybe even becomes ECO's biggest fan. That'd be a good ending to the story. seems to be events out of an old TV show compared to reality but then again it still happens I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I'd tend to think disrespect and intentionally meaning to run the ECO over are very far apart with the later not being the case. Running the ECO over was probably a mistake. that said I hope the kid driver gets fit punishment. once it's all said and done and he's paid for his decisions, he drives it home. kid rolls up to the ECO's house on his own free will, takes his hat off before speaking to give a heart felt apology, and it's followed by the shaking of hands. Maybe even becomes ECO's biggest fan. That'd be a good ending to the story. seems to be events out of an old TV show compared to reality but then again it still happens I'm sure. sorry, can't classify those actions as a "mistake". The kid was old enough to know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Cops are different, when hurt on the job. 100% for a certain time period. Good to know. Still there's loss of valuable OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chas0218 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 The kid was driving a truck? Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk I might be wrong but how I read it the kid was in a 4x4 vehicle (truck or maybe jeep) and the CO was patrolling on an ATV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince1 Posted March 23, 2016 Author Share Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Kid was on an atv reiding on state land. Im not real big on throwin the book at kids. I do believe their should be serious response. Just not life altering. Edited March 23, 2016 by Vince1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I might be wrong but how I read it the kid was in a 4x4 vehicle (truck or maybe jeep) and the CO was patrolling on an ATV.Yea first said atv then I do see where says truck....typical media lolSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Kid was on an atv reiding on state land. Im not real big on throwin the book at kids. I do believe their should be serious response. Just not life altering. Agreed make lesson learned but realistically much worse offenses our there....wasn't doing drugs wasn't stealing so make lesson learned but don't ruin him....Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Agreed make lesson learned but realistically much worse offenses our there....wasn't doing drugs wasn't stealing so make lesson learned but don't ruin him.... Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk we aren't talking about a speeding ticket or even a wreck where no one was injured. This is a felony assault charge. If his record is clean he could end up with just misdemeanors, probation and ACD. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 we aren't talking about a speeding ticket or even a wreck where no one was injured. This is a felony assault charge. If his record is clean he could end up with just misdemeanors, probation and ACD.Yea probation com service ACD all good by me....felony is a bit steep if he is clean..Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 sorry, can't classify those actions as a "mistake". The kid was old enough to know better.Oh he definitely should've known better and his decisions were a direct result of getting the ECO run over. Not condoning what he did in any degree. Just thinking his intentions were to just get out of there and not run anyone over. If that's the case I'd like to think he can still learn from this and not do time then hold the idea he should've ran over the ECO completely. If I'm an idiot for hoping any small resemblance of anything good can come out of this then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 If you're old enough to decide to run from the cops then you're old enough for the punishment for running from the cops. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Oh he definitely should've known better and his decisions were a direct result of getting the ECO run over. Not condoning what he did in any degree. Just thinking his intentions were to just get out of there and not run anyone over. If that's the case I'd like to think he can still learn from this and not do time then hold the idea he should've ran over the ECO completely. If I'm an idiot for hoping any small resemblance of anything good can come out of this then so be it. Not calling you and idiot by any stretch. but I think this letting kids out of personal responsibility is one of the keys to why the country is so f'd up. Where is the line for giving a pass. DUI and a wreck? street racing and running a kid on a bike over? I can use the "he didn't intend to hurt anyone" argument for sooooo many things that are illegal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 This is the release. Truck. Three Arrested after Assaulting DEC Officer During Off-Road Vehicle Enforcement Operation Incident Occurs as DEC and State Police Increase Enforcement of Illegal ATV/ORV Use in Pine Barrens Three men face charges of up to ten years in jail after a joint detail by New York State Police and New York State Department of Environmental Conservation resulted in an Environmental Conservation Officer (ECO) being run over during an operation to crack down on illegal All-Terrain Vehicle (ATV) and Off-Road Vehicle (ORV) use in the Pine Barrens. On March 13, ECO Travis McNamara and NYS Trooper Fabio Daino were on a multi-agency ATV/ORV patrol, sponsored by the Pine Barrens Law Enforcement Council, when the officers encountered three four-wheel drive vehicles operating illegally off road on PSEG property in Shoreham. Officer McNamara was speaking to the driver of the lead truck, Trevor Galvez, 17, of Selden, when he and the other drivers attempted to flee. Galvez quickly backed up, running over the lower leg and foot of Officer McNamara, fracturing several bones. Officer McNamara was taken to Stony Brook University Hospital where he underwent surgery and was released later last week. Trooper Daino apprehended Galvez and another driver, Richard Hughes, 23, of Sound Beach, a short distance away. ECOs arrested the driver of the third truck, 20-year-old Jesse Demers, of Selden, the following day at his residence. "Illegal ATV and ORV use is a direct threat to the integrity of sensitive ecosystems like the Pine Barrens and public safety, and I'm proud to work with the State Police to step up our enforcement efforts to protect our environment and the people who responsibly enjoy it," said Acting DEC Commissioner Basil Seggos. "The safety of DEC's officers and staff is paramount, and I wish Officer McNamara a full and swift recovery. We will ensure that these men, and any individuals who harm or attempt to harm to our officers, receive the full extent of the law." Trevor Galvez was charged with: Assault 2nd, a felony; Reckless Endangerment 2nd, a misdemeanor; Unlawful Fleeing of a Police Officer, a misdemeanor; Reckless Driving, a misdemeanor; and several vehicle and traffic law infractions. Assault 2nd can carry a maximum of seven years in prison, and each misdemeanor up to one year. Jesse Demers and Richard Hughes received identical charges minus the Assault 2nd. The arrested suspects were processed at the State Police Troop L Barracks in Riverside and held overnight at the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office Detention Center in Riverhead. Each man was arranged and made bail. The officers were part of a multi-agency ATV and ORV detail run by the Pine Barrens Law Enforcement Council (LEC). The council, formed in 1993, combats illegal ATV activity as well as other violations in the Pine Barrens. ATV and dirt bike riding can cause tremendous resource damage due to Long Island's sandy soils. The vehicles can create ruts in trails, tear up native vegetation and potentially disturb or injure other authorized recreational users. Individuals who spot illegal activities are encouraged to call DEC's Environmental Conservation Officers at (631) 444-0250 during business hours, and (877) 457-5680 or (518) 408-5250 at all other times. Individuals can also call (877) BARRENS for non-emergency calls relating to the Pine Barrens. http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/77537.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 I take back some of my comments there was only 1 kid in the group...20 plus shouldn't have been in that situation and definitely should have known when caught is caught Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Old enough to drive, old enough to do time. Operation of a 2 ton weapon has great responsibilities. They probably wish their parents would have taught them that when they sit in jail with rapists and murderers. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYbuck50 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 forget about the legal ramifications, if i did that at 16 my dad would've given me all the punishment i could handle 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Young punks like this, grow up knowing that, short of committing murder, there is little that will happen to them. Couple that with lenient "not my angel" or non existent parents and this is what happens. Not so long ago, an incident like this would have made national news. Now?? Who cares?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 If the cop had not been hit this wouldn't have made any news...even if they ran...if they were on quads cops don't even chase them Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Kid was on an atv reiding on state land. Im not real big on throwin the book at kids. I do believe their should be serious response. Just not life altering. Every time it rains or he goes for a run and especially when he gets older that officers leg will never be the same. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Old enough to drive, old enough to do time. Operation of a 2 ton weapon has great responsibilities. They probably wish their parents would have taught them that when they sit in jail with rapists and murderers. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems I was with you until you roped them in with rapists and murders Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike rossi Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Prison, One less POS on state land...... The charge is too harsh-- , given me a an effin brake. Send his arse away make the world a better place. He can go work in a factory in china when he gets out...... Imagine if the little turd doesnt go to prison and knocks up some slutomatic. More Lillte POSs running around. Put the trash were it belongs. 16 is a great age to get em put away before they breed more garbage..... Put him away tlll his winky dont work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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