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This is my second year bowhunting and have yet to take a buck in gun (4 years) or bow.

Today I was out deer hunting and about 10:30 3 doe stroll through so I took a shot at one and missed, luckily found my arrow. 25 yrds

15 minutes later a 4 point comes through from the direction that the 3 doe's went to, took a shot again and missed.

Keep in mind I am in my treestand and its the first time I have shot an arrow from my treestand.

This is the third time I have missed this year. The first time was from the ground at about 30 yards.

Last year I did well during practice, and the season was amazing, I was hooked, so much different and better than gun.

This year I had to get new fletchings which were a different style. The bowyer told me that they would not have much effect if any on a 30 yard shot.

I also had to use my other broadheads which are 125 gr., however I did not realize this until after I sighted/tuned the bow.

It was sighted with 100 gr. field tips.

So I am here looking for some knowledge from my fellow bowhunters, and my question is how much will the added 25 gr. effect a 30 yard shot?

Was it the broadheads that through the shot off?

Was it the new fletchings, was it both?

Or, was it my close encounter jitters?

And one more question, does the angle that im shooting (from treestand) have any effect on the flight of the arrow?

 

Thanks to all who answer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Not trying to be harsh, but do you own a target? If you sight in your bow with the equipment you hunt with then there will be no excuses. Never take a random persons word for it when they say it won't effect your shot "much".


 You do and it’ll be the biggest mistake YOU ever made, you Texas brush-popper!--Rooster Cogburn

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Either re-sight with the 125gr. broadheads at all distances or buy some new 100grainers and practice.

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 You do and it’ll be the biggest mistake YOU ever made, you Texas brush-popper!--Rooster Cogburn

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KenDoe, I only have a little more experience than you, but I recently switched to 125 gr broadheads after sighting in with 100 gr. When I shot the 125 gr. on my range I found the sights needed no adjustment.. shooting at 10-20- 30 yards. But as PREDATE says, you really should sight in using your hunting gear if at all possible.

As for shooting from the treestand. In theory, the height/angle doesn't matter, but your form can be distorted.. its important to keep your upper body the same as if you are shooting on the ground, and then bend at the waist .. So I'm told and have read.

As for the new fletchings I'm not an expert but I would certainly run some test shots on the target if I changed fletchings.

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By no means am I trying to give excuses I am trying to figure out the most likely cause for the missed shots were.

I do have a target however the target I was given does not take well to broadheads. It is basically a burlap sack or tarp type material filled with a bunch of screening. Which works well for practice tips/field points but a broadhead will rip right through, or so I was told.

What is best for broadheads, the hard foam ones?

 

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Crap just unloading and loading your bow to go hunting could bump your sight or rest. I take a shot at the target every couple days during season to maintain form and verify accuracy or sight etc.

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Always Always Always practice with the equipment you plan on hunting with. Your target tips should be the same weight as your broadheads.  If fletching of a different type is used after you are sighted in there is a good chance it will effect accuracy. The key to successful shooting is practice, practice, practice with the equipment you plan on hunting with. Lots of practice will also condition you to automatically draw and anchor the same place each time.

It could be the equipment, your anchor point. sight is not tight, peep site turning (f you use one) or you are misjudging distances.

Once you are sighted in you should try to shoot from a elevated position to see how you do and adjust from there.

Being that you are fairly new to bow hunting practicing once or twice a week to verify would not be a bad idea.

I personally carry two target arrows with me and take a shot every once in awhile to verify 1) distance & 2) I am still accurate. Something like a odd colored leaf, dead stump, etc.

Sounds like you need to check your equipment and shoot some more to improve your accuracy. If you keep flinging arrows  like you are it is only going to be a matter of time before you make a bad hit that you will regret taking.

Just my .02 cents.

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I switched to 125G last year.  I bought all 125G field tips that I practice with before the season.  During the season I take one arrow and one of my broadhead and make it my target arrow.  

 

 

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Thanks for all the feedback everyone, whether it seemed harsh or not it was all taken in the right manner.

At one point I was practicing weekly in my back yard but was told I cant anymore because im in town. I have a couple places I could probably practice at, it will cut into my hunting time but lets face it, im not killing anything until I fix whatever the issue is anyways.

Steve & Stevie, I like the idea of taking a couple practice arrows, which will help shooting from a stand, form and practice and will make use of it.

Zeus, thats a good point, I cant say my bow doesnt take abuse.

So Im pretty sure the issue is practice, practice, practice and adjust if necessary. 

 

 

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concentrate on squeezing the trigger (release) when hunting. really have to think about it. it helped me a lot as i used to just pull. 

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Im sure in the heat of the moment I am probably doing a lot of things wrong, pulling instead of squeezing, not bending from the waist etc. practicing in that stand when I am hunting will probably help.

Think I will practice on level ground first with equipment I intend to use and make adjustments if necessary, if no adjustments need to be made it's most likely something I am doing wrong.

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When I first got my Bow and found myself missing deer, despite decent practice results, it was because my sight was not properly aligned with the arrow and rest. I was managing to compensate on a target, but real world shots exposed the issue.

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On 11/9/2016 at 8:26 PM, OldNewbie said:

KenDoe, I only have a little more experience than you, but I recently switched to 125 gr broadheads after sighting in with 100 gr. When I shot the 125 gr. on my range I found the sights needed no adjustment.. shooting at 10-20- 30 yards. But as PREDATE says, you really should sight in using your hunting gear if at all possible.

As for shooting from the treestand. In theory, the height/angle doesn't matter, but your form can be distorted.. its important to keep your upper body the same as if you are shooting on the ground, and then bend at the waist .. So I'm told and have read.

As for the new fletchings I'm not an expert but I would certainly run some test shots on the target if I changed fletchings.

25 grains is going to affect your POI by quite a bit. My bow is pretty fast and when I went to 125Grain heads, it dropped me 2 or 3 inches at 30 yards

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My advice would be to go to a range and make sure your bow is sighted in. You can get 125 Grain field points from any bow shop.

 

Also, remember, when shooting from a treestand or any elevated platform, you will need to bend at the waist. Your shoulders need to be square to your torso, the same as when you are shooting on flat ground. If you simply aim your bow down at the animal and move your shoulders, you will shoot high, hitting deer in the backstraps or just shooting over their backs.

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I am no expert, but I would draw your bow and anchor normally. Don't draw and aim at the deer at the same time. This will make your form correct. Then find your target by bending at the waist and keeping the form in your upper body. Improper form will change your POI more than anything else. Although I would have never changed from 100 grain to 125 grain with out checking accuracy. Make sure you do that...

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