Winter Rye

[wolc123]

  On 7/16/2018 at 9:58 PM, moog5050 said:

You do realize this is a small plot he is raking in by hand?

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What difference would that make ?

[moog5050]

  On 7/17/2018 at 12:36 AM, wolc123 said:

What difference would that make ?

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You are suggesting trying to plant a very small plot to last from early bow through ML with several types of seed.  Unfortunately nothing he plants in the small areas I saw photos of will last near that long if being used at all by the Deer.   Perhaps I missed your point.  And even if he could get soybeans to grow by raking them in (don’t think they will) there is no chance of them making it until season. 

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[wolc123]

  On 7/17/2018 at 12:47 AM, moog5050 said:

You are suggesting trying to plant a very small plot to last from early bow through ML with several types of seed.  Unfortunately nothing he plants in the small areas I saw photos of will last near that long if being used at all by the Deer.   Perhaps I missed your point.  

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Rye might stand up to browse pressure better than wheat, on a very small plot, since deer do not like it as much.   

[moog5050]

  On 7/17/2018 at 12:50 AM, wolc123 said:

Rye might stand up to browse pressure better than wheat, on a very small plot, since deer do not like it as much.   

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Lol - back to square 1

[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 7/17/2018 at 12:50 AM, wolc123 said:

Rye might stand up to browse pressure better than wheat, on a very small plot, since deer do not like it as much.   

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 I’ve planted both in the past, and I have Never seen a difference in how the deer use it. We have also planted triticale, and they hammered that too. The reason I ise rye is because it does a little better with less or no fertilizer than wheat does. That being said, I don’t pay attention to how they eat it once it’s fully grown. I’m more concerned with how they use it in the fall and winter. Just my experience. 

[landtracdeerhunter]

  On 7/16/2018 at 4:32 PM, LET EM GROW said:

just find your local feed and seed and ask for cereal rye. Th last few years its been around $12-$16/50# around here. 

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Guess I have to start growing some acreage for seed.

[LET EM GROW]

Im always in a hurry so i grab it where i can lol. 

The first year i planted cereal rye, I had no idea what they sold for. I' went to the local country max and got 50# for 38$ lol. Looking back i cant believe i paid that much. Since then, they have yet to receive my business lol.  

[BizCT]

Plant 9/15 or 9/1? I’m hoping to have something there for 10/1.


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[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 7/18/2018 at 3:51 PM, Biz-R-OWorld said:

Plant 9/15 or 9/1? I’m hoping to have something there for 10/1.


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If you can do a week or two earlier than 9/1, it would be best.

[BizCT]

  On 7/18/2018 at 4:22 PM, WNYBuckHunter said:

If you can do a week or two earlier than 9/1, it would be best.

I can do that, but was worried it would all be eaten by 10/1


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[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 7/18/2018 at 9:31 PM, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

I can do that, but was worried it would all be eaten by 10/1


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Thats hard to say. It will usually sprout in a week and a half or so.

[Steuben Jerry]

  On 7/18/2018 at 9:53 PM, WNYBuckHunter said:

Thats hard to say. It will usually sprout in a week and a half or so.

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As I read this thread, I'm kind of considering this in a couple of small areas. Are they drawn to the new growth stage, mature plant, or both?

[WNYBuckHunter]

Both. Turkeys love it too

[dmandoes]

  On 7/18/2018 at 10:52 PM, Steuben Jerry said:

As I read this thread, I'm kind of considering this in a couple of small areas. Are they drawn to the new growth stage, mature plant, or both?

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if it was me i would plant it 9/15 or later for deer season.  planting it to early and it gets past the stage they like it.  u want it to be 6 leaves or less and less than 5 inches long.  thats when they like it best.  if i worked the ground up i would plant it  oct 1 or later.  if ur throwing it over standing beans than do it in september.  thats what works best for me.

[BizCT]

 

It has arrived. It says 1” apart? That seems like barely any seeds. I was planning to just throw it around and rake it in.

 

 

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[dmandoes]

  On 7/19/2018 at 2:26 AM, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

It has arrived. It says 1” apart? That seems like barely any seeds. I was planning to just throw it around and rake it in.

 

 

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i would call that bate.  i use 200 lbs to the acre.  i got to ask,  how much did it cost? 

[BizCT]

  On 7/19/2018 at 10:59 AM, dmandoes said:

i would call that bate.  i use 200 lbs to the acre.  i got to ask,  how much did it cost? 

 

It was like $10-12 per 5lb bag. Can I just throw it heavy by hand or does it really need to be 1” apart?

 

 

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[landtracdeerhunter]

  On 7/19/2018 at 2:55 PM, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

It was like $10-12 per 5lb bag. Can I just throw it heavy by hand or does it really need to be 1” apart?

 

 

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Holy cow, that's over $100/ bushel. I  plant some and sell it for half, LOL.

[WNYBuckHunter]

I just broadcast it with my ATV and a tow behind spreader.

[WNYBuckHunter]

  On 7/19/2018 at 3:16 PM, landtracdeerhunter said:

Holy cow, that's over $100/ bushel. I  plant some and sell it for half, LOL.

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Yeah for that price, I need to let mine grow and harvest the seed to sell. I paid $11 per 50lb bag last year according to the spreadsheet I keep. I couldnt afford to plant it at that price, I broadcast it at 150lb per acre.

[landtracdeerhunter]

Walk around with of those Walmart lawn seed spreaders. Wi'll make a farmer out of you yet, Biz.

[moog5050]

For the size of plot you are doing, a $10 hand spreader will work just fine or even tossing it around as suggested.

[NYBowhunter]

Regardless of the seed you lay down, the plot will get hammered if you have any sizeable deer herd and its a small plot. Not to sound too  negative seems a plot that size has the potential of  getting wiped out overnight. I get heavy browsing on a few large plots, cant imagine a plot that size holding up to any deer/turkey population. But you may get lucky, hopefully the plot holds out for you until 10/1. Be sure to post pictures of the plots progress. Good luck.

[BizCT]

  On 7/19/2018 at 3:20 PM, landtracdeerhunter said:

Walk around with of those Walmart lawn seed spreaders. Wi'll make a farmer out of you yet, Biz.

Yea I usually use a hand rotary spreader. My grass and landscaping is flawless. I’m already a farmer.


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[BizCT]

  On 7/19/2018 at 3:53 PM, NYBowhunter said:

Regardless of the seed you lay down, the plot will get hammered if you have any sizeable deer herd and its a small plot. Not to sound too  negative seems a plot that size has the potential of  getting wiped out overnight. I get heavy browsing on a few large plots, cant imagine a plot that size holding up to any deer/turkey population. But you may get lucky, hopefully the plot holds out for you until 10/1. Be sure to post pictures of the plots progress. Good luck.

 

Thanks yes they will hit it hard. Last year they hit it hard up until the week before October when all the throw & grow was demolished.

 

 

So I’m hoping something that keeps them in this good bow spot for an extra week or so will be perfect. This spot also has the most acorns in the surrounding 80+ acres too.

 

 

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