H.R. 127 gun law text released

[9jNYstarkOH]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XOiqZ6qfbBOquYNdjwsqPGadcdIWb3CT/view 

this is crazy and what a lot of people feared not some boogeyman 

[Grouse]

I don't know about anyone else, but it will be a cold day in hell before I will comply with any of that crap.

[Steuben Jerry]

This is what all Biden voters and the majority of all voters wanted, right?

[Grouse]

A lot of them do.

[Steuben Jerry]

1 minute ago, Grouse said:

A lot of them do.

Well, they're all getting exactly what they wanted.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

‘‘(B) ACCESS.—The Attorney General shall
16 make the contents of the database accessible to
17 all members of the public,

 

I think NOT

[Culvercreek hunt club]

to get a license

 

‘‘(C) as deemed necessary by the licensed
23 psychologist involved, the evaluation included a
24 psychological evaluation of other members of

1 the household in which the individual resides;
2 and

3 ‘‘(D) as part of the psychological evalua-
4 tion, the licensed psychologist interviewed any

5 spouse of the individual, any former spouse of
6 the individual, and at least 2 other persons who
7 are a member of the family of, or an associate
8 of, the individual to further determine the state
9 of the mental, emotional, and relational stability
10 of the individual in relation to firearms.

[Sambuca]

Grouse, forget hell, they are trying to make it 3650 cold days in prison for you and me.

Mandatory psychological exams, minimum fines of $50,000 and minimum 10 years in prison for knowingly violating. $800 fee to get this license to exercise your constitutionally protected right (plus whatever your psychological exam costs).  Oh, and the psychologist can request to examine any family members if they see fit.  By far the most intrusive and restrictive piece of gun legislation ever introduced.  

Even lefties on the supreme court should see this as flagrant violation of constitutional law.  The author of this bill should be punished for attempting to subvert the constitutional rights of the American people. 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Denial

DENIAL OF LICENSE.—
12 ‘‘(A) REQUIRED.—The Attorney General
13 shall deny such a license to an individual if—
14 ‘‘(i) the individual is prohibited by
15 Federal law from possessing a firearm; or

16 ‘‘(ii) the individual has been hospital-
17 ized—

18 ‘‘(I) with a mental illness, dis-
19 turbance, or diagnosis (including de-
20 pression, homicidal ideation, suicidal

21 ideation, attempted suicide, or addic-
22 tion to a controlled substance (within

23 the meaning of the Controlled Sub-
24 stances Act) or alcohol), or a brain

disease (including dementia or Alz-
2 heimer’s); or

3 ‘‘(II) on account of conduct that
4 endangers self or others.

5 ‘‘(B) AUTHORIZED.—The Attorney Gen-
6 eral may deny such a license to an individual

7 if—

8 ‘‘(i) the psychological evaluation re-
9 ferred to in paragraph (2) indicates that

10 the individual—
11 ‘‘(I) has a chronic mental illness

12 or disturbance, or a brain disease, re-
13 ferred to in subparagraph (A)(ii)(I);

14 ‘‘(II) is addicted to a controlled
15 substance (within the meaning of the
16 Controlled Substances Act) or alcohol;
17 or‘‘(III) has attempted to commit
19 suicide; or
20 ‘‘(ii) prior psychological treatment or
21 evaluation of the individual indicated that
22 the individual engaged in conduct that
23 posed a danger to self or others.

[Northcountryman]

6 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

‘‘(B) ACCESS.—The Attorney General shall
16 make the contents of the database accessible to
17 all members of the public,

 

I think NOT

So, I guess that means there would be like a gun ownership database then??  That doesnt include regular hunting rifles and shotguns though, right ?

[rob-c]

Where’s our Biden supporters on this ? I would like to hear what they have to say . 

[Northcountryman]

5 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

to get a license

 

‘‘(C) as deemed necessary by the licensed
23 psychologist involved, the evaluation included a
24 psychological evaluation of other members of

1 the household in which the individual resides;
2 and

3 ‘‘(D) as part of the psychological evalua-
4 tion, the licensed psychologist interviewed any

5 spouse of the individual, any former spouse of
6 the individual, and at least 2 other persons who
7 are a member of the family of, or an associate
8 of, the individual to further determine the state
9 of the mental, emotional, and relational stability
10 of the individual in relation to firearms.

Yeah, that parts effed up; as soon as they interviewed ny ex,  I'd never qualify , nor would 3/4 of the applicants  ill bet lol.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

‘‘(dd)(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to pos-
19 sess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

4 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

So, I guess that means there would be like a gun ownership database then??  That doesnt include regular hunting rifles and shotguns though, right ?

ALL

[Northcountryman]

No way!!  Are you sure??

[Northcountryman]

2 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

‘‘(dd)(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to pos-
19 sess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater.

Ok, so admittedly, this aint my forte.  The 50 cal provision isnt referring to muzzleloader rounds though, right?? I think its referring to those military rounds like in maghine guns.  Back in my army days, I rmember the 50 cal mounted machine guns, and those rounds were huge!!  Must be in reference to that , right?

[Sambuca]

18 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

So, I guess that means there would be like a gun ownership database then??  That doesnt include regular hunting rifles and shotguns though, right ?

Every firearm and ammunition is covered under this disastrous piece of legislation.  An additional and even more restrictive section of "military style" weapons is there as well.  

[Uncle Nicky]

14 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Ok, so admittedly, this aint my forte.  The 50 cal provision isnt referring to muzzleloader rounds though, right?? I think its referring to those military rounds like in maghine guns.  Back in my army days, I rmember the 50 cal mounted machine guns, and those rounds were huge!!  Must be in reference to that , right?

I don't believe so, it's probably suggested in the bill to make it difficult to own or shoot a Barret .50 cal rifle. I don't know all of the gun ownership laws in NY (I only owned land there for a while & lived there when I was in college), but they are a fairly popular rifle to own if you want to be able to take out cinder blocks at 800 yards.

Edited January 29, 2021 by Uncle Nicky

[Sambuca]

12 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Ok, so admittedly, this aint my forte.  The 50 cal provision isnt referring to muzzleloader rounds though, right?? I think its referring to those military rounds like in maghine guns.  Back in my army days, I rmember the 50 cal mounted machine guns, and those rounds were huge!!  Must be in reference to that , right?

Probably not muzzleloaders.  the projectile is not considered ammunition.  However, this would ban ammo for the 50 BMG and even the S&W 500 I assume.

 

[9jNYstarkOH]

And all shotgun ammo bigger than .410

[Northcountryman]

10 minutes ago, Uncle Nicky said:

I don't believe so, it's probably suggested in the bill to make it difficult to own or shoot a Barret .50 cal rifle. I don't know all of the gun ownership laws in NY (I only owned land there for a while & lived there when I was in college), but they are a fairly popular rifle to own if you want to be able to take out cinder blocks at 800 yards.

Yes!!!  Thats what I remember!!  Huge rounds !! Been a LONG time since I shot one, like maybe 1988 or so!! lol

Great pics , thank you 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

27 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Ok, so admittedly, this aint my forte.  The 50 cal provision isnt referring to muzzleloader rounds though, right?? I think its referring to those military rounds like in maghine guns.  Back in my army days, I rmember the 50 cal mounted machine guns, and those rounds were huge!!  Must be in reference to that , right?

Depends on thier definition of "ammunition". if it exclude muzzleloaders they may get a pass.

Also I'd like to put out there that there is 50 cal ammo that isn't just 50BMG that most people think of for military use like you did. How about the 50AE pistol round? ....better one....Any idea what caliber a 12 gauge is?  .73 caliber and the sabots can be 50 cal. 

Edited January 29, 2021 by Culvercreek hunt club

[Culvercreek hunt club]

13 minutes ago, Uncle Nicky said:

I don't believe so, it's probably suggested in the bill to make it difficult to own or shoot a Barret .50 cal rifle. I don't know all of the gun ownership laws in NY (I only owned land there for a while & lived there when I was in college), but they are a fairly popular rifle to own if you want to be able to take out cinder blocks at 800 yards.

effects way more than the 50BMG

[Northcountryman]

Alright, I'm gonna read through this mumbo jumbo more I guess cuz, at first, I wasnt getting that from just skimming the doc.  If you guys are right, this aint good 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002087237

This  Hornady SST 12 gauge use 50 cal FTX bullets