luberhill Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I have the scope and rings but no mount I was going to use the saddle mount but they have been on back order forever .. So if I go for the drill mount which one is the best ? And is this something I can do myself?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedale Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) Weaver made a side mounted base that was held by screws on the curve of the receiver and a ring set up that would attach to that base. It is a very strong setup and it puts the scope right over the top of the receiver. Best done by a competent gunsmith. Below is my Winchester super X1 with that mount. Edited February 1, 2021 by airedale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDose Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 45 minutes ago, luberhill said: I have the scope and rings but no mount I was going to use the saddle mount but they have been on back order forever .. So if I go for the drill mount which one is the best ? And is this something I can do myself?? Google "Remington 1100 Weaver base". Lots to choose from. Can you do this? No idea what your skill set is. It requires precisely drilling the holes centered and in a straight line. The screws themselves are a fine pitch (48?) which is not a common tap and would be needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 I will say that in terms of accuracy the saddle mount it the least accurate. A receiver mounted base is the next step up but a cantilever barrel will be your most accurate for the gun. It will be more expensive but since the scope is mounted on the barrel itself it will hold zero and provide your most consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDose Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: I will say that in terms of accuracy the saddle mount it the least accurate. A receiver mounted base is the next step up but a cantilever barrel will be your most accurate for the gun. It will be more expensive but since the scope is mounted on the barrel itself it will hold zero and provide your most consistency. Agree, but the most accurate and best set-up is a receiver mounted base with a pinned barrel. The cantilever barrel also has the issue of stock comb usually being too low and the barrel still moves within the receiver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, DoubleDose said: Agree, but the most accurate and best set-up is a receiver mounted base with a pinned barrel. The cantilever barrel also has the issue of stock comb usually being too low and the barrel still moves within the receiver. With the pinned and the cantilever you are probably in a situation where a dedicated bolt action shotgun would be just as viable at that point. I opted for the cantilever because I still wanted a double duty from my 1187. Adding a couple hundred dollars I could have gotten a dedicated bolt shotgun. I like seeing different responses, it give the OP a good lay of the land. I remember my Dad's 12 gauge Ithaca deer slayer was accurate as heck. Not sure but I think the barrel was "attached" tot the receiver in some form or fashion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: With the pinned and the cantilever you are probably in a situation where a dedicated bolt action shotgun would be just as viable at that point. I opted for the cantilever because I still wanted a double duty from my 1187. Adding a couple hundred dollars I could have gotten a dedicated bolt shotgun. I like seeing different responses, it give the OP a good lay of the land. I remember my Dad's 12 gauge Ithaca deer slayer was accurate as heck. Not sure but I think the barrel was "attached" tot the receiver in some form or fashion. Yea the DS barrels have a thread type attachment to the receiver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieNY Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 luberhill I sent you a PM. valoroutdoors.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 hours ago, airedale said: Weaver made a side mounted base that was held by screws on the curve of the receiver and a ring set up that would attach to that base. It is a very strong setup and it puts the scope right over the top of the receiver. Best done by a competent gunsmith. Below is my Winchester super X1 with that mount. I had that mount on a 20 gauge 1100 skeet gun...Worked very well, but if you take the barrel on and off for cleaning, etc, you should check the zero before you take it huntin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_C Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 Scopes on a shotgun...a problem I'm glad I don't any more! My father had the side mount on an Ithaca Deerslayer. Worked well. I bought a Deerslayer myself and had a saddle mount. Wouldn't stay tight. I bought an 11-87 and had the top strap drilled and tapped-that wouldn't stay tight-not enough metal there. Replaced that with a cantilevered barrel. That worked well. I remember seeing a mount for a Remington that had was top based and attached by 3 screws on each side of the receiver, No experience with it but I thought it looked like it would work. I think a gunsmithing in Ilion that was loosely affiliated with Remington had them. I'm so glad that with rifles being legal since 2005 my slug days are just a memory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanfarmer Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 hours ago, luberhill said: I have the scope and rings but no mount I was going to use the saddle mount but they have been on back order forever .. So if I go for the drill mount which one is the best ? And is this something I can do myself?? Here you go https://www.ebay.com/c/152874410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, Will_C said: Scopes on a shotgun...a problem I'm glad I don't any more! My father had the side mount on an Ithaca Deerslayer. Worked well. I bought a Deerslayer myself and had a saddle mount. Wouldn't stay tight. I bought an 11-87 and had the top strap drilled and tapped-that wouldn't stay tight-not enough metal there. Replaced that with a cantilevered barrel. That worked well. I remember seeing a mount for a Remington that had was top based and attached by 3 screws on each side of the receiver, No experience with it but I thought it looked like it would work. I think a gunsmithing in Ilion that was loosely affiliated with Remington had them. I'm so glad that with rifles being legal since 2005 my slug days are just a memory! 1 minute ago, suburbanfarmer said: Here you go https://www.ebay.com/c/152874410 Yea the thing about that one is it’s made fir a 12 gauge and uses shims for the 20 the Sunoptics brand is made for the 20 , no shims ,,, I have one on order but it’s taking a long time Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Will_C said: Scopes on a shotgun...a problem I'm glad I don't any more! My father had the side mount on an Ithaca Deerslayer. Worked well. I bought a Deerslayer myself and had a saddle mount. Wouldn't stay tight. I bought an 11-87 and had the top strap drilled and tapped-that wouldn't stay tight-not enough metal there. Replaced that with a cantilevered barrel. That worked well. I remember seeing a mount for a Remington that had was top based and attached by 3 screws on each side of the receiver, No experience with it but I thought it looked like it would work. I think a gunsmithing in Ilion that was loosely affiliated with Remington had them. I'm so glad that with rifles being legal since 2005 my slug days are just a memory! I think that’s the DaMar mount , gunsmith in Weedsport designed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbanfarmer Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, luberhill said: Yea the thing about that one is it’s made fir a 12 gauge and uses shims for the 20 the Sunoptics brand is made for the 20 , no shims ,,, I have one on order but it’s taking a long time Thx If your shotgun receiver is the full size and not lt , you wont need shims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, suburbanfarmer said: If your shotgun receiver is the full size and not lt , you wont need shims. Yea trouble is it’s not , it is an LT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachunter Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) I had a b-square on my 1100 12ga. it was really easy to mount. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1828450 Sorry just saw that someone already mentioned that Edited February 1, 2021 by rachunter added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luberhill Posted February 1, 2021 Author Share Posted February 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, rachunter said: I had a b-square on my 1100 12ga. it was really easy to mount. https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1828450 Sorry just saw that someone already mentioned that Yea I had one too but this is a 20 gauge LT frame I’ve had one in order but it’s taking forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDose Posted February 1, 2021 Share Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: With the pinned and the cantilever you are probably in a situation where a dedicated bolt action shotgun would be just as viable at that point. I opted for the cantilever because I still wanted a double duty from my 1187. Adding a couple hundred dollars I could have gotten a dedicated bolt shotgun. I like seeing different responses, it give the OP a good lay of the land. I remember my Dad's 12 gauge Ithaca deer slayer was accurate as heck. Not sure but I think the barrel was "attached" tot the receiver in some form or fashion. Completely agree. The Ithaca 37 was/is an accurate (as heck) slug gun (smooth bore / foster slugs) because of the method the barrel is attached. It was a twist fit locking into the receiver and the magazine cap would get unscrewed and lock into a barrel fitting preventing movement between barrel and receiver. Ithaca now makes what I believe is the ultimate pump action slug gun, the Ithaca Deerslayer III. It uses a fully rifled heavy walled and fluted barrel screwed into the receiver like a rifle. Super accurate with sabot slugs. The down size is it is heavy for carrying but soaks up recoil. Edited February 2, 2021 by DoubleDose 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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