What’s a decent gun safe

[hueyjazz]

They used to be located close to the old Beikrich's gun shop that has since closed up. 

Oh I miss Beikirchs.  Place got all screwed up when Hann's sold it.  I don't think new owner had a clue.  Plus every time I was in there the place turn into a cracker barrel.  Lots of people chatting but nobody buying that seemed to occupy sales staff.  Hello, paying customer here that wants to buy something yet would go un-noticed.  

It was so nice to get any powder without a Haz-Mat fee.

[Daveboone]

Buy as big as you can...you will use it, but try to plan for placement in an out of the way dry place...foolish to display it prominently in a hallway or living room. Just as important...make sure your home itself is as secure...deadbolts, windows that cant be accessed, basement doors /windows to pop open, etc.  It only makes sense to secure your HOME first, and then get the guns secured (of course reversed if you are worried about people/kids inside the house).

[RangerClay]

Here's my 2 cents. I did a lot of research and this is the one I chose.  Tractor Supply frequently has them on sale.

http://cavearmor.com/winchester-24-gun-safe-review/

[luberhill]

18 minutes ago, RangerClay said:

Here's my 2 cents. I did a lot of research and this is the one I chose.  Tractor Supply frequently has them on sale.

http://cavearmor.com/winchester-24-gun-safe-review/

Note that the TSC safes are made cheaper , thinner metal ..

Even the non TSC ones are thin sheet metal .

Its fine for keeping kids out but I’m looking for plate steel like 3/16” min thickness .

Something I can’t rip the door off with a pry bay easily .

The ones are TSC are 14 gauge ! 
That’s thin !!!

Edited February 25, 2021 by luberhill

[luberhill]

2 hours ago, Bolt action said:

I also have a Sentry. When they were local they would have periodic inventory reduction sales. I grabbed a pair of the 10 gun models that weigh in around 400 lbs apiece. I was sad to see them move the shop. They used to be located close to the old Beikrich's gun shop that has since closed up. 

I stagger mine as well. The carpeted floor doesn't seem to do harm. Also a dehumidifier is a good idea to remove moisture in the safe. That actually reminds me that I should check mine today.

Yea the crown isn’t made of glass . Setting the crown down on carpet isn’t going to hurt anything .

 

[sbuff]

10ga 12ga 14 ga I think I'd pay money to see you try to open with a pry bar. Everything on you tube isn't always as it seems 

Why did you buy your current safe if it didn't suffice your needs ? Do you have a house or home alarm system?

Edited February 25, 2021 by sbuff

[Chef]

I would be worried about damaging the crown and impacting accuracy.  Not likely but why risk it.

On a felt lined safe bottom
I highly doubt it. I have no choice but to do this. I’m just careful about which guns point down


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[SpacemanSpiff]

https://rhinosafe.com/rhino-a6042xgl-60h-x-42w-x-27d-54-long-gun-safe-120-min/

 

These safes are pretty solid. 

[luberhill]

2 hours ago, sbuff said:

10ga 12ga 14 ga I think I'd pay money to see you try to open with a pry bar. Everything on you tube isn't always as it seems 

Why did you buy your current safe if it didn't suffice your needs ? Do you have a house or home alarm system?

I’ll take that bet ! 14 gauge I can put a screwdriver thru ..

My current safe was given to me and I also had a place that it was hidden.

Again , if main concern is keeping kids out or stopping local kids break in the thin big box safes are fine .

If you want security get 3/16 “ min plate or thicker..

I looked at the TSC safe and I could open the door and hold my foot against the bottom and pull on the top and flex the whole door !

14 gage sheet metal is like .0075 thick... a human hair is like .003

Also the big problem with the cheapo safes are the door gap is huge ..

You get what you pay for 

Edited February 25, 2021 by luberhill

[luberhill]

37 minutes ago, SpacemanSpiff said:

https://rhinosafe.com/rhino-a6042xgl-60h-x-42w-x-27d-54-long-gun-safe-120-min/

 

These safes are pretty solid. 

Yea much better ! 
im going to check these out 

https://www.sturdysafe.com/a/s/pages/how-sturdy-safes-are-built

[sbuff]

I'm trying to find my papers I swore it was 10ga. I know it took 4 of us to get it in my basement 

Good luck in your search 

[luberhill]

13 minutes ago, sbuff said:

I'm trying to find my papers I swore it was 10ga. I know it took 4 of us to get it in my basement 

Good luck in your search 

What brand is it ?

Ive never seen a big box store in 10 gage ..

[luberhill]

The big Browning ultras at BPS weighs 800 pounds !!!

Its 12 gage bent sheet metal ... and the bolt assembly looks massive until you look behind the door panel and see how they are attached to the handle ...

[sbuff]

Its a Canon, I didn't buy from box store i bought it from a security store 

[luberhill]

5 minutes ago, sbuff said:

Its a Canon, I didn't buy from box store i bought it from a security store 

Humm well every Canon I have looked at , and 6 were just today , all had 14 gage steel ..

The door gaps were huge , they didn’t shut tight , the door could be flexed easy ..

Now maybe yours is different ...

[luberhill]

14 minutes ago, sbuff said:

Its a Canon, I didn't buy from box store i bought it from a security store 

What’s the front say ? Below Canon should say model

[TLR]

Browning,cannon,winchester,liberty are, great safes, we turned 1_of the extra,rooms,in our new,home into a,man cave/den/gunroom  complete,with a browning vault door  and,a,browning silver 33  safe,

[sbuff]

Mine just says Canon on top above key pad and a fancy C on the bottom. I looked for paper work and model but don't see one . I guess it works good for me . If we ever move it can stay with the house because its not going back up the stairs 

Edited February 26, 2021 by sbuff

[luberhill]

46 minutes ago, sbuff said:

Mine just says Canon on top above key pad and a fancy C on the bottom. I looked for paper work and model but don't see one . I guess it works good for me . If we ever move it can stay with the house because its not going back to the stairs 

Yea as long as you are happy and it meets your demands !

Cheers

[Five Seasons]

22 hours ago, luberhill said:

The crown setting on padded carpet would be fine

 

21 hours ago, moog5050 said:

Have at it.

I agree luber, but I'm with moog. Not for me.

[Five Seasons]

22 hours ago, hueyjazz said:

My safes are Sentry.  I know not top of the line

way to many owners don't have any safe or even trigger locks. Just recognizing that they're an asset that needs to be controlled is all that should matter here, not the price tag of the safe.

[Five Seasons]

17 hours ago, Chef said:

On a felt lined safe bottom
I highly doubt it. I have no choice but to do this. I’m just careful about which guns point down


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that's interesting. You don't think there's harm, yet you're selective about it... 

[Buckmaster7600]

I'd never do that I'd be concerned about the crown. 
I do recommend getting a golden rod of some type .

I store my guns muzzle down when they’re in the safe. Only crown I’ve ever hurt in a gun was from tipping out of the safe and landing on concrete floor. From that day on I’ve stored them muzzle down. Steel against foam, I have zero concern about the crown sitting on a carpet covered piece of foam.


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[Steuben Jerry]

When I was a machinist, I made the mistake of lining my toolboxes with carpeting. Bad mistake, carpeting holds moisture, rubber doesn't. On the Monday after the first humid weekend I was developing rust on many $$ worth of expensive tools. And that was in an air conditioned building.

Probably not an issue if you have a goldenrod or some other drying device, but I thought I'd mention it. I use a knockoff of a goldenrod in my safe. 

[luberhill]

5 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said:

When I was a machinist, I made the mistake of lining my toolboxes with carpeting. Bad mistake, carpeting holds moisture, rubber doesn't. On the Monday after the first humid weekend I was developing rust on many $$ worth of expensive tools. And that was in an air conditioned building.

Probably not an issue if you have a goldenrod or some other drying device, but I thought I'd mention it. I use a knockoff of a goldenrod in my safe. 

I know machinists and tool makers that use thin carpet and they spray the carpet with M1 lube and then put the tools on it