SteveB

Great job! And plenty of equipment - contrary to the opinions of some.

Did you look at the link I posted? 2 holes with a 57@27 longbow. 2 holes and broke a rib going in. 410 grain arrow with a cut on contact broadhead. Also passthru isn't needed - just double lung. I know several who have killed one with a bow - both compound and trad. Hit in the lungs, they actually die pretty easy.

Plenty of bow. I would use a sharp COC broad head and you are fine. At the attached link, a long 57# at 27 inches shot thru a big cow buff with a 410 gr arrow - maybe 185 fps. And it broke a rib going in. I'd do it in a second with my 53# recurve and feel confident of a clean kill - shot thru an elk with it. http://shrewbows.com/carbon_arrows.html

The deer was smarter than many of the posters.

The DEC doesn't "let people post their property". It is a right of landowners to do so. I know several farms that get NP's - every one of them is hunted. Just because they are not open to anyone does not mean they are not hunted. They get the NP's because not enough deer can be taken in season. They react to pressure quickly, pattern the hunters and change routines.

The only way to get much over 1/3 of the dressed weight, is to not trim all fat and silverskin and to not be picky about what you grind.

No - you were trespassing with no regards for landowners rights. Your choice of recreation does not allow you legal, moral or ethical permission to ignore landowners rights. It is a chance you take when you make a choice to shoot.

Depends - do you hunt legally or not? If you don't have permission, you don't go - it is that simple. Your choice to pursue a recreational activity bestows no privileges to you to ignore a landowners rights.

Permission to recover - not hunt. If you don't know you have it, be prepared for the possibility you may not be allowed to recover when you decide to take the shot. The shooter creates the situation - not the landowner next door.

Permission is something that should be obtained far in advance of ever needing. Part of the hunt prep just like scouting, hanging stands and practicing with your weapon. Going to the woods without doing any of these is failing to prepare. When you know recovery may be an issue, you make the decision and accept the responsibility of your actions BEFORE shooting. Then live with it. One's decision to go hunting and attempt to kill an animal is just that and nothing more. It does not give one the right to ignore landowners rights nor bestow some sacred duty to the animal to recover. The animal is dead and could care less. Again, someone's choice of recreational activities gives the zero moral, ethical or legal right to ignore another's right's.

Perfect example of why backyard shooting in a neighborhood is a bad idea. If someone has to do it, the only place for the target is against the shooter's own house.

Can't press charges, but you can tell them to leave and not come back. It is unfortunate that NY isn't like other states where you need permission to access or you will be charged. Responsibility should be on the hunter, not the landowner.

Never understood the team thing to hunting. Must be a generational thing.

I agree with him. Possible to reduce scent - impossible to cover one from a deer. How much reduction actually happens and how effective it is, is tough to measure.

Again with the 10X BS. Was funny at 1st - just pathetic now.

Ground blinds, tree stands and high let off all but eliminate the "draw in the presence" arguement.

Great - thanks. Good info.

It's not derailing if accurate information is given. Might help the OP.

Where exactly is the "no man's land"?

If it was in front of the diaphragm and under the spine, it passed thru the lungs. A hit that occasionally is survived. There is no empty space there - easy for someone to see that butchers their own.

Center of what? Behind the lungs is liver - arrow is not going between them. "No man's land" is above the spine thru the back straps.

Deer can occasionally survive a long hit. They account for the "under the spine over the lung" stories. But it is impossible for an arrow to do that. And if the backstrap was infected, most likely the arrow went in there. Hint - backstraps are above the spine.

Deer search guy was probably right about the high hit - but it would be above the spine thru the backstrap. There is no place in the chest cavity where you can go under the spine and miss lungs.

Math doesn't matter to him. He uses Jesus aging on his Jesus arrow killed deer.

Don't post till you are hands on. As far as help, if you don't know where you hit it, I doubt I have anything I can do on a computer to help.