WNYBuckHunter

Im going to be trimming a bit and getting my main stand out this weekend. I also will be putting up my practice stand to shoot out of until season is here. My other stands will have to wait until I see what the deal is with the farm this year.

Looks like Ill be just fine to get mine again

Can someone comment on why the folds are there? They are there because the Taxidermist went overboard

Heres a good article that describes the pending lawsuits. http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Husband-of-Taconic-Driver-Sues-State-In-Law-126175258.html The guy is just looking for a way to cash in on this and save some face. I hope the suits plainly fall on their face, as they should. Just more frivolous litigation clogging up our system.

That "documentary" was a piece of crap from the get go. HBO airs lots of "documentaries" like that one. Partially I feel that the people who made the POS paid HBO a large sum to put it out there. You can read a good review on it here... http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/summer-doc-series-theres-something-wrong-with-aunt-diane.php Either way, I wouldnt lose any sleep over it.

Theres another thread on that around somewhere....

A couple of years ago I discovered that roping off the plot and hanging chunks of Irish Spring bar soap keeps them out quite well. It took a few rains after I took the fence down before they started coming to it.

That video just never gets old lol

HAHAHAHA, wish I had that issue

Hope your daughter is ok Karp. Finally shut the AC down this morning. Not so bad out today.

You have a point there.

$10 is the difference between you hunting and not hunting? Really? Buy one less hunting accessory that you dont need or refrain from stopping at McDonalds twice and youll be able to buy your DMPs and have $ left over. First off I don't or won't eat any fast food!! Second I haven't bought any new accessory in years. It's not about the money. I live and hunt in an area that has "VERY" few DMPs in fact I havn't draw one in 3 years!!! There is antler restriction in this unit and I've seen 2 "LEGAL" bucks in that time. Both not in bow range!! If not for the either sex tag I would have gone "MEATLESS"!! By the way I've bow hunted sence I was 16 and I'm now 58 so I've seen the good and bad, but never this bad!! Why would the state want to take away my either sex tag and "SELL" it to another hunter other than for the $$$$!!!! First off, no need to be technical about the examples I used, you get the point. Second, maybe the fact that there are very few DMPs handed out in your area means that the herd in your area is not in great shape and needs to recover. If that is true, then why cant you see that maybe you shouldnt be shooting does there for a couple or few years so it can recover. Nah, you would rather just keep killing them and complaining about not seeing many deer. DEC isnt taking "your" tag away and selling it to anyone, they are trying to gain better control over the herd in areas like yours. BTW, if hunting is so poor in your area, hunt elsewhere. Ive given up two hunting areas that I used to go to for just that reason. Yes I get the your point your an opinionated person who first tells me how to spend my money and than tells me to go hunt some where else!! I'm born in raised in this area so this is where I love to hunt!! This is my home!! Yet other people apply for DMPs that live outside of this erea and get them. I say if you live work and pay tax's in that erea than you should have first choice. then there are those who get permits because they are land owners. Alot of them don't allow hunting yet they buy a tag and get a permit just so there deer don't get shot. There are hunting clubs that get land owner permits but won't allow the taking of does. Some clubs even have in there bylaws that members "must" apply for DMPs but won't allow them to use them on club grounds. I cook for a large hunting camp during the rifle season they have 3200 acers of land and got 24 land owner permits last year, they shot 3 does "for camp meat"!! Then there are those "old schoolers" that don't believe in shooting does yet apply for the permits so others won't get them!! If the state wants to control the heard than only give the permits to people who will use them. Have a check in station where you "must" bring in your doe to have it checked for age, weight, ect. just like they do with bears!! Then the state would know what hunters are reliable as a hunting tool!! I've been Participating in the bow hunter survey for 9 years. Last year i saw 51 does and 5 bucks. The numbers are skewed a healthy heard should be about 3 to 1. If you think this isn't about the state making more money off the DMPs than you got your head stuck in the sand!! I under stand that there is a need to improve there deer heard in my erea yet the states going to allow cross bow here to further "improve" deer management. It's about the $$$$ plain and simple!! If the state wants to improve the deer heard than why have a season on coyote's. They kill more fawns than hunters, they should have a bounty on those things!! It's all about the $$$!!! I say if you buy or are given "as are land owners" DMPs and don't use them than the state should not issue you them. Sell them to me I'll do my part "improving" the deer herd!! As just a bow hunter I would gladly pay the $10 fee for and DMP when I buy my archery tag if I was assured that I would get one!! So with your infinite wisdom tell me where it's fair to the bow hunter to take away the either sex tag!! IT"S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!!!! You got one part of that whole thing right, I am opinionated. I never told you you couldnt hunt where you do, my point is, if its that bad, quit your bitching and find another place to hunt, or quit whining about it. Maybe think about what can improve the hunting situation and deer numbers in your area. Apparently the current way of doing things isnt working very well, is it? As far as what DMPs are given out to whom and how many goes, you apparently dont understand how they are allocated. The DEC relies on the fact that a very small number of them actually get filled. You can get a better understanding of how it works by reading this... http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/47743.html Now, if you want to keep having a slim chance of getting a DMP, keep pissing and moaning about not seeing deer and keep the deer herd out of whack in your area, by all means, leave the current system in place. It has to do with getting a grip on the herd. $10 more from the few who dont buy DMPs now isnt going to make or break their budget. :

Why wouldnt it make sense? The either sex tags allow you to shoot a doe, and the DEC has no control over what unit you use it in. If you just said restrictions or no DMP make sense for certain units, then how can you say people in or that hunt those units should be given an either sex tag? BTW, if you shoot a deer with your bow during regular season, you use your regular season tags, not your bow/ml tags. Oh, and you can use your normal DMPs during bow season. They are not currently just a "gun tag". Buck, even though you use your regular season tag, you still need a bow license to use your bow.You are right with a bow/ml tag we do not know what unit they will hunt. This is hard to manage unless the DEC removes the either sex tags .I know it's what they have to do but as a bow hunter I don't agree. I agree with some of the 5 year plan but not all of it. Dave Yes, you have to have your bow tags even during regular season, but you dont use them then. I hear ya, its one of those things that nobody really likes (I sure dont), but we know it needs to be done.

Yeah just make sure to twist check them while shooting. I did not know enough to do that back then, and its entirely possible that the arrow may have been worn out when I drew it, but I had bought that set only a few months before that. Ive also seen stories and pics of every other brand of arrow blowing up, just havent had it happen to me other than that one time.

I would congratulate the hunter and welcome them to the archery hunting fraternity. Im sure they would know the same exhilaration that the rest of us archery hunters feel when taking a deer at very close range, as he had to have taken that buck up close.

lol

Why wouldnt it make sense? The either sex tags allow you to shoot a doe, and the DEC has no control over what unit you use it in. If you just said restrictions or no DMP make sense for certain units, then how can you say people in or that hunt those units should be given an either sex tag? BTW, if you shoot a deer with your bow during regular season, you use your regular season tags, not your bow/ml tags. Oh, and you can use your normal DMPs during bow season. They are not currently just a "gun tag".

http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/8117.html

Ive just been staying in the AC as much as possible. The AC in our house has been going almost non-stop for over a week. I cant wait to see the electric bill this month. :

$10 is the difference between you hunting and not hunting? Really? Buy one less hunting accessory that you dont need or refrain from stopping at McDonalds twice and youll be able to buy your DMPs and have $ left over. First off I don't or won't eat any fast food!! Second I haven't bought any new accessory in years. It's not about the money. I live and hunt in an area that has "VERY" few DMPs in fact I havn't draw one in 3 years!!! There is antler restriction in this unit and I've seen 2 "LEGAL" bucks in that time. Both not in bow range!! If not for the either sex tag I would have gone "MEATLESS"!! By the way I've bow hunted sence I was 16 and I'm now 58 so I've seen the good and bad, but never this bad!! Why would the state want to take away my either sex tag and "SELL" it to another hunter other than for the $$$$!!!! First off, no need to be technical about the examples I used, you get the point. Second, maybe the fact that there are very few DMPs handed out in your area means that the herd in your area is not in great shape and needs to recover. If that is true, then why cant you see that maybe you shouldnt be shooting does there for a couple or few years so it can recover. Nah, you would rather just keep killing them and complaining about not seeing many deer. DEC isnt taking "your" tag away and selling it to anyone, they are trying to gain better control over the herd in areas like yours. BTW, if hunting is so poor in your area, hunt elsewhere. Ive given up two hunting areas that I used to go to for just that reason.

If you are looking for something you rent for a weekend or week, you could try Letchworth State Park. Im pretty sure they rent out cabins during deer season. You have to get the hunting permits for there, but its worth it. Some monsters wandering around that place.

100% with you, I think it should be free Big and small game with fishing too. They would just have to buy add ons.

$10 is the difference between you hunting and not hunting? Really? Buy one less hunting accessory that you dont need or refrain from stopping at McDonalds twice and youll be able to buy your DMPs and have $ left over. Buck, I think sometimes we have a knee jerk reaction at the moment then we settle down and pay. I am not trying to speak for BIGTOM, just a normal reaction every time our taxes, tolls, gas goes up we get mad as hell then we comply, just human nature.Dave I know, just pointing out that $10 is pretty silly to quit hunting over

We gonna see 125 pages on this one??? ;D

Grow, I used to use those arrows too, had one blow up on me just forward of my hand as it left the bow, never bought them again. I was just thankful it didnt blow up behind the riser and embed itself in my arm.