Early apples

[zeke83]

I have heard that the apple crop is ahead of time this year because of the warm spring. I have noticed them already falling from the trees. Do you think this will change anything during the season?

[Buckstopshere]

I don't have hardly any apples on my apple trees this year, even though I worked like a dog, trimming out all the buckthorn  and other brush that was shading them. Had tons of blossoms, but a heavy freeze in early May toasted them.

On my apple trees, some apple varieties fall early and some fall late.

I also have a lot of crab apple trees...and they are loaded. They blossomed later than the regular apples and evidently missed the deep freeze that the earlier blooming apples trees didn't. Deer like crab apples too.

My property is quite high, 2,000 foot elevation. And it faces south, so my apple trees were in full bloom in late April, which is very early, earliest I can remember. But apple trees over on the cold north slopes didn't bloom until later and they have apples!

[nyslowhand]

They are about 10 days earlier than usual.

Around here (N. Wayne Co.) they are picking beginning labor day.

There are later varieties that typically get picked in early Nov.

Don't think it'll be a season ending situation.

May see them traveling to/from orchards earlier than usual.

[Fantail]

Well considering that a few apples are starting to drop around here, I see crabapple trees loaded, and the opener (NZ) is still a month away, damn.

[Cabin Fever]

I was taking a walk yesterday and noticed that the crabapple trees are loaded, BUT they are dropping already!! The ground was covered with apples!!

[nyslowhand]

Crab apples are typically earlier than their orchard cousins.

Believe the original question was referring to orchard apples.

[zeke83]

Well I was asking about apples in general.

By the way...what apples are native to NY.

[nyslowhand]

Native to NY - None.

Developed by crossbreeding or grafting by Cornell Ag. - Several

http://www.nyapplecountry.com/azapples.htm

[Buckstopshere]

Apples are not native to the USA.  Apples originated in Kazakhstan which is a country in southern Russia, north of Afghanistan.

There are no indigenous apples to the North American continent. 

Apples made their way across Eastern Europe and into Western Europe when they were brought to "the new country" here by the French and introduced to the native American and Canadians probably in the 1600's. Historical reports say that the river valleys, such as the Genesee valley, were full of apple, peach, plum and pear trees as the Iroquois were great farmers and had vast orchards.

[Doc]

Yeah, it was that guy, Johnny Appleseed that brought them. I didn't know he was french ...... 

[zeke83]

HAHA Thats right I forgot about old Johnny. So can apple seeds be spread naturally and grow new trees, since they are not native? I have found them in some strange locations, so I would think so.

[Mr VJP]

They are earlier this year by me.  Not sure if it's from the rain in the spring or the hot summer weather.  Just gets the deer feeding on them sooner and once they are gone, they'll move on to other food sources.

[Doc]

HAHA Thats right I forgot about old Johnny. So can apple seeds be spread naturally and grow new trees, since they are not native? I have found them in some strange locations, so I would think so.

My brother-in-law from Thunder Bay Ontario, Canada took some seeds from some Wolf River apples out of our old ancient orchard and sprouted them. His trees are getting huge and are bearing apples now, so yes they can be grown from seed. However, more to the point of your question, I must admit that I have never seen a bunch of seedlings growing under an apple tree. So I'm not sure about natural propagation. I'm not sure. I have to admit I have come across some pretty domestic looking apple trees in some pretty unlikely places.

Doc

[nyslowhand]

Actually it was the hot weather in the spring that gave the apples a jump start and why they are a little early.

[sweet old bill]

I have several wild apple trees and the apples are starting to fall off. This may be also due to the lack of rain in the late July and early August period...

[bpb]

Take a crabapple tree and graft an apple tree branch in.

[First-light]

Apples were falling in August, trees are loaded with them.

[UpStateRedNeck]

Speaking of mast, I got pelted by acorns from red oaks this past weekend unloading hay.  I see alot of apples starting to ripen all around too.

[Buckstopshere]

Right. And it is a good Black Cherry year too. Deer, turkey and bear really hit them hard. It is a very underrated mast. Last weekend a buddy and I were checking out the activity under the cherry trees... turkey, deer and bear.

[growalot]

all the trees on our land for the deer are wild ...I take the young ones and move them to better places...alot of variety from red to green and big and sweet to small and tart...early and late but few this year as compared to others and falling way early...acorns and beech have been dropping for weeks now.....

[RangerClay]

On my property (southern Jefferson county) I have apples on threes that normally don't produce and they have a TON of apples.  Most are starting to drop.  We are a week to ten days ahead of schedule.

[nvrnuftime]

No crop for me...lost them to the frost. I can literally count all my apples on a couple fingers ( and i have about 50 trees). If you pruned alot this past winter, you probably pruned off alot of this years crop, but next year... ;D

[Culvercreek hunt club]

All the trees in my area have apples hitting the ground. I see all the crops ahead of usual...corn has also started....and tht definitely doesn't break my heart. Acorns and beechnuts are down....just makes me glad my food plots are doing well....might make thwm really draw. I just hope the food sources hold out and we don't get hit with an early and long winter....it might really stress the herd

[WNYBuckHunter]

The apples near my spot are already gone for the most part. Might be some left to drop, but the majority are gone. The crabapples are holding on though.