Interesting Youth Season Spot on News

[phade]

13 Wham reported this morning that the youth season was taking place...it caught my eye because you usually don't hear about hunting news on the actual news...

Just goes to show how much confusion there is on it...phew!

[burmjohn]

So whats the final outcome on this anyways?

[phade]

http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/Deer-Hunting-Season-Extended/9rBzptI0f0Sg38vYAgU3VQ.cspx

[WNYBuckHunter]

They reported it yesterday too.

[Chevy]

I just talked to a guy planning to take his kid hunting during the special youth gun hunt in October. He saw it passed on TV. These guys won't bother checking the regulations so they will be out there.

[growalot]

did anyone ever get an answer from DEC?

[WNYBuckHunter]

I havent yet.

[Cabin Fever]

This is crazy! You don't know who or what to believe!?!? I would "think" if the news is reporting it, and if it wasn't 100% certain yet, the DEC would immediately issue a disclaimer or something??

Edited July 24, 2012 by Cabin Fever

[landtracdeerhunter]

Interesting that WNY hasn't received an response yet. Believe it was on the goveners desk, but wasn't there a time limit for signing?

Edited July 25, 2012 by landtracdeerhunter

[WNYBuckHunter]

The guy I emailed can take a week or so to get back to me sometimes, but he always ends up giving me good info.

[growalot]

What is going on

?!?!?...Just got the NYODN and the front page say the youth hunt doesn't look good...do to a bill that says no guns are to be allowed during archery seasons...making the youth hunt null and void...illegal actually

This is really an embarrassment when the DEC would allow miss information out to the public in such a manner as to thoroughly confuse the population...is there no one in charge of public relations/media?

[Dom]

What is going on

?!?!?...Just got the NYODN and the front page say the youth hunt doesn't look good...do to a bill that says no guns are to be allowed during archery seasons...making the youth hunt null and void...illegal actually

This is really an embarrassment when the DEC would allow miss information out to the public in such a manner as to thoroughly confuse the population...is there no one in charge of public relations/media?

No gun's durring archery ddoes that mean no small game hunting at that time.Now I am getting confused they need to post this more clearly i think.

[WNYBuckHunter]

What the bill says exactly is this...

"8. The only junior hunter days for big game hunting the department of environmental conservation may authorize during archery seasons are junior archery days."

The bill has yet to actually pass and be put into law.

[WNYBuckHunter]

Heres a link to the complete bill

http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?default_fld=&bn=A10583&term=2011&Summary=Y&Actions=Y&Text=Y&Votes=Y

[growalot]

this is what the article in ODN said...

"When state law makers approved legislation limiting crossbow use to the regular firearms and late muzzle loader deer seasons, the bill carried with it a clause prohibiting firearms use during the regular archery season.

http://www.outdoornews.com/July-2012/Crossbow-use-remains-unchanged/

Edited July 25, 2012 by growalot

[phade]

I think the clause intent is for firearms use for deer hunting...not small game.

[fasteddie]

I think the clause intent is for firearms use for deer hunting...not small game.

I would tend to agree but there are always some screwy technicalities that would change the meaning .

[Lawdwaz]

This is a terrible display of work by the DEC.

They really should be ashamed.

[phade]

Actually the DEC is in a rock and a hard place. They literally cannot say too much.

The DEC wants the youth season, but their power could be trumped. The bill/law that kills it is pending...so they can't comment on it, other than to say they will comply, which they have done.

They simply cannot tell the public anything because they don't know the final result. Blabbing about it is a political game killer for them...biting the hand that feeds is a no-no.

[growalot]

I would think Channel 13 would have to check their source before going to air...so where do you think they got their info from? The same can be said for NYODN...where did they get their info...two conflicting story's about the same thing

With the DEC sending out E-mails on season dates and not even mentioning a youth hunt

[skully]

Call them up and they will tell you exactly what is happening believe it or not. As for the news going live with a youth hunt, they screwed up like everyone else did. The Dec did screw this up, they should have been crystal clear on what was going on. But to tell you all the truth, they dont care, there is no fallback on this. Who cares if there is no youth hunt, the majority of people are against it. If there is a 14 or 15 yr old crying about this, then guess what, take them with you on opening day..............................

[WNYBuckHunter]

I would think Channel 13 would have to check their source before going to air...so where do you think they got their info from? The same can be said for NYODN...where did they get their info...two conflicting story's about the same thing

With the DEC sending out E-mails on season dates and not even mentioning a youth hunt

DEC actually released info on their site that showed the youth hunt as passing, which it did. Thats where the news agencies got their info, straight from DEC. Once the new bill passed though, it put things up in the air.

[WNYBuckHunter]

But to tell you all the truth, they dont care, there is no fallback on this. Who cares if there is no youth hunt, the majority of people are against it.

Care to back up either of these claims with actual info?

The DEC has stated that they want the youth hunt. Its right in the 5 year plan, so that would mean that they DO care. The fallback on it, if it is signed, is to push to change the legislation again next year.

[landtracdeerhunter]

Wonder why wasn't the info on the new bill released to new media? Where they threw early youth gun season into crossbow season usage. Still don't understand that reasoning.

Edited July 26, 2012 by landtracdeerhunter

[Chevy]

Why would they or any other group continue to attack the archery season each year when the decision has alreay been made? It is so devisive.

Just because the DEC wants it does not mean it is good for hunting or archery season. They also thought is was a good idea to give out 2 DMP to each hunter every year until the sighting of a doe in many areas is rare.