JimMac Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 as told at hunters ed class , deer run thou woods all the time and get stuck by branches and they just bite the branch and pull it out ... same as a bad shot arrow , why we dont use barbed broadheads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Said it before and I'll say it again. Dumb rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 from running or getting the arrow hung up on brush/trees/etc. it gets pulled out. not saying a deer wouldn't bite and pull or even kick it out. seems less likely though. I've cut out muzzy heads from a deer's neck that have been there from prior seasons when processing my own. sometimes barded or not doesn't make a difference. I don't think it's a dumb rule though as the logic is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It's a 50-50 rule...merits to both sides. Probably a rule that has too much attention on it vs. the payoff/benefit/detriment (whatever side of the fence one is on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I'll stay legal and stick with my 2 blade Rage . They pass right through deer . Never saw the need to even try the 3 blade . What's the advantage ? I used to shoot Tekan 2's and loved those blades . They are also considered BARBED so I went with the Rage 2's . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 from running or getting the arrow hung up on brush/trees/etc. it gets pulled out. not saying a deer wouldn't bite and pull or even kick it out. seems less likely though. I've cut out muzzy heads from a deer's neck that have been there from prior seasons when processing my own. sometimes barded or not doesn't make a difference. I don't think it's a dumb rule though as the logic is there. i'd rather improve my risk of a good clean kill with a 3 blade, then to only have a single cutting plane as apposed to 2 and possibly miss the artery that would seal his fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 i'd rather improve my risk of a good clean kill with a 3 blade, then to only have a single cutting plane as apposed to 2 and possibly miss the artery that would seal his fate. I've never really thought I needed the 3rd blade and I've been using various Rage heads continuously since they've come out. I'm not concerned about arteries so much as poking a sizable hole in both lungs and popping them like a balloon. other case is I hit one but hit the heart too. the 2 blades leave a typical 3" long open gash for entry and exit when broadsided path happens. a heart won't work with that damage. say it's not a good clean kill and you hit it not at the right angle or whatever. I'd rather have the more penetration for maximum damage from the 2 blades versus less with the 3 blades. I've seen a noticeable penetration difference with the newer cut on contact front blade design of the titanium heads or the SS versus the more triangular original design. last deer I took she spun toward me already slightly quartering too and the shot went wrong. the titanium (2-blade) entered to the rear of the front shoulder, all the way through the deer, and out the rear of the opposite hind quarter. she went less than 40 yards all completely downhill. I wouldn't expect that kind of results and penetration with the 3 blade, despite it's got one more blade cutting it's way through doing damage but slowing it down. a small reason added to that to prevent me from switching is the barbed head deal that may change depending on which ECO I talk to. I'm sure it's been said on here that heads you choose are a personal choice that you should be comfortable with and they all have killed game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFA-ADK Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Besides the other benefits mentioned I have found the two blade seem to match my field tip accuracy with little to no change needed most times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I use the two blades. They fly great and work very well. I have had the three blades in my hand and they definitely fit the description of "Barbed" ..No one could argue that they are not "Barbed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I've never really thought I needed the 3rd blade and I've been using various Rage heads continuously since they've come out. I'm not concerned about arteries so much as poking a sizable hole in both lungs and popping them like a balloon. other case is I hit one but hit the heart too. the 2 blades leave a typical 3" long open gash for entry and exit when broadsided path happens. a heart won't work with that damage. say it's not a good clean kill and you hit it not at the right angle or whatever. I'd rather have the more penetration for maximum damage from the 2 blades versus less with the 3 blades. I've seen a noticeable penetration difference with the newer cut on contact front blade design of the titanium heads or the SS versus the more triangular original design. last deer I took she spun toward me already slightly quartering too and the shot went wrong. the titanium (2-blade) entered to the rear of the front shoulder, all the way through the deer, and out the rear of the opposite hind quarter. she went less than 40 yards all completely downhill. I wouldn't expect that kind of results and penetration with the 3 blade, despite it's got one more blade cutting it's way through doing damage but slowing it down. a small reason added to that to prevent me from switching is the barbed head deal that may change depending on which ECO I talk to. I'm sure it's been said on here that heads you choose are a personal choice that you should be comfortable with and they all have killed game. And I agree, but it bothers me I can't decide. Should my arrow fly off course, it's a personal opinion of mine that making an x with razor blades provides more opportunity to slice something vital. I've nicked a few hearts in my day and wonder sometimes if that 2 blade was 180* if i'd have still recovered the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And I agree, but it bothers me I can't decide. Should my arrow fly off course, it's a personal opinion of mine that making an x with razor blades provides more opportunity to slice something vital. I've nicked a few hearts in my day and wonder sometimes if that 2 blade was 180* if i'd have still recovered the deer. You mean 90 degrees? 180 of ________ is _________ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BellR Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I think he means 120. 120 (degrees between blades) x 3 (total blades) =360 (degrees in a circle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 And I agree, but it bothers me I can't decide. Should my arrow fly off course, it's a personal opinion of mine that making an x with razor blades provides more opportunity to slice something vital. I've nicked a few hearts in my day and wonder sometimes if that 2 blade was 180* if i'd have still recovered the deer. I have hit the heart a few times but the lungs are bigger . A deer can run too far if it can't breathe ! Two blades do the trick ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I have hit the heart a few times but the lungs are bigger . A deer can run too far if it can't breathe ! Two blades do the trick ! A field point does the trick too, the point I'm making is of you have a less than perfect shot. Let's not pretend it doesn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 You mean 90 degrees? 180 of ________ is _________ Haha good catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowguy Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 do they sell them in New york if so they should be why market if we can not use them They sell tons of bait too n that's not legal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveB Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 That is a 5 year old post you are responding to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maytom Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I also had to get some 2 bladed Rage heads since I was told we can't use the 3 bladed ones. (after I bought 2 packages!!!!) Not worth loosing my license over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCbklyn Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Come on!!!!! When did these become illegal???? It's what I have been using since I started bowhunting. I never heard anything about them being illegal.....till now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Come on!!!!! When did these become illegal???? It's what I have been using since I started bowhunting. I never heard anything about them being illegal.....till now. At least 5 years that I know if. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCbklyn Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 At least 5 years that I know if. Jeeze I ever knew. Killed a few deer too. Feel like a criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Jeeze I ever knew. Killed a few deer too. Feel like a criminal. It's not the end of the world, there are far worse crimes. It does reinforce the need to read the rule book every season. Ignorance won't get you out of a ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbielat Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Iteresting at gander I've seen 3 blade Rage, Bags of acorns, acorn powder, and primos battery operated doe in heat cans. All with signs they are illegal in NY. So why do they sell them in their NY stores? So people can stock up here in NY and then go out-of-state to hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfdeputy2 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Yup when I was using rage 2 blades I asked DEC if they were legal & they told me the 2 blades were legal but the 3 blades were not legal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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