Opinion on Sighting in New Bow

[beachpeaz]

Assistance Please....

I bought a new bow. It is scary fast. I transfered my Tru-Glow sight off my old bow. It has 5 pins, of which I used all 5 of on my old bow.

On my new bow, I am only using 2 pins out to 40 yards. I have my 20 set dead on. It shoots so fast that I can't get my 30 pin close enough to the 20 pin for the 30 pin to be dead on. If I shoot 30 yards with my 20 pin, it shoots a bit low (maybe 2 inches). if I squeeze a pin as close as I can to my 20 and try and use it for 30, it shoots 4 to 6 inches high.

I then have a 40 pin set dead on.

So, the question is...

What does everyone do in that scenario?

Do you leave a 30 pin and try and shoot low?

Do you use your 20 pin and try and shoot high?

Do you elimiate the 20 and make it dead on at 25 so you shoot real close (within an 1") at both 20 and 30?

Any advise you experts have would be helpful as I have only been bowhunting for 3 years now.

Thanks!

[NYbuck50]

what bow did you get? and how big are your pins

[Doc]

Throw the new bow away and put the sight back on the old bow so you can have your 30 yard pin back .... lol.

What's wrong with using your 20 yard pin and being 2" low at 30 yards? I'll bet I could easily compensate that 2" and drop the arrows right in there at 30.

[phade]

What size pins? .029? .019?

[beachpeaz]

I bought the new Bear Anarchy. I love it. I don't know what size pins are on that site. I didn't realze you could change them out. I don't thinkt here is anything wrong with being off a couple inches. As a gun hunter, you learn to compensate for all distances (and given the kill zone is a good 6" circle, its not a big deal). With a bow, I just wasn't sure if people compensated or adjusted their pins differently. I have been shooting it all summer and keep moving it around playing with it and haven't really settled on the "best practice." Was just curious what other people did.

[virgil]

Personally, I'd use the 20 and aim a little high.

[Marti375]

Set one pin a 20 and just shoot shoot shoot and see how far off it is a 30 and 40. If its that fast you may only need the one pin.

[Early]

Agree with Marti375...one, or maybe two pins could serve you well. I hunted with a single pin sight for years; it never caused me to miss in the field. (Of course plucking the string...poor follow through...buck fever, etc caused me to miss more than I like to admit!)

Good Luck,

Early

[beachpeaz]

thanks. That is what I have been doing this summer. I set a 20 and 40 pin and have been using them to shoot 30. I am never more than 3 or 4 inches off shooting at a target. when my 215" Gross Typical Giant walks by me at 27 yards this fall, I am sure i will miss by 5 feet or so and blame it on your advice...lol

[NFA-ADK]

As long as the elevation is proper on the arrow rest I would just move the pin to 25, everything under 25 yards just aim a little low. Same reason not many bow hunters have a 10 yard pin, its just not needed.

After you shoot your new bow and get use to the pin set up it will not be a issue. Just like anything its personal prefrence, you can add two smaller pins if needed but at those speeds you can just leave the 20 yard pin and compensate if you want. It is really up to you... I would set the second pin as close as possible at the next range you like.

EX: If that second pin is as close as you can get it to the 20 yard pin and it hits that high, you can set it to 35 yards and compensate. I would double check the bow and make sure the arrow rest and string are set properly, you might have it off a little bit... If the arrow rest is OK then I would set a 15-25 and 35 pin it does not have to be 20 30 40... Or a 20, 35 45. That would be best for you I think. 20- 35 is realativly easy to judge IMO past that you want the pins. Good luck, hope this helps...

[beachpeaz]

Ya Know Advanced, for as simple an answer that is, I never thought of that..lol. I apparently live in a world of even numbers and never considered just making it a 35 yard pin. I agree, i definitely don't want a pin closer than 20. Even at 20, I don't know how you could miss (I damn near double stack my arrows at that distance). I will try that pin at 35 when I get home. Thanks!

[mlammerhirt]

Try Setting the pins at 26 and 33. With the speed from Anarchy, and a properly matched arrow you should be good from 15-26 yrds. and then just aim high or low with the 33 and that should take you out past 37yrds.

I shoot an Athens Ibex and this set-up works for me. The bow absolutley rips, and with .019 pin size on the sight by setting them up at 26 and 33 this gives you some gap, and they wont be stacked on each other.

[phade]

I hate it when pins have to be stacked. I seem to shoot wayyyy worse.

Luckily my bow although nice (Z28) is not a barn-burner.

[beachpeaz]

lol. my old bow was like that Advanced. As I mentioned, I used all 5 pins and had them spread accross my site. I wouldn't shoot a deer more than 35 yards with that bow (at least i say that without one standing in front of me). This new bow you could probalby shoot well past 50 or 60, but the stacked pins drive me nuts! That is why i was wondering what other people were doing. I like the 35 yard pin idea. Gives them a little space.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Or you can get an adjustable site and just use one pin.

[Doewhacker]

I have a silly idea, shoot heavier arrows, you will then need more pins to cover all the ranges. Heavier is better.

[nybuckboy]

Personally, I use 1 pin set at 25 yards and have for years. So does my son. If your bow is that fast, I would also tell you to consider 1 pin. If you are really set on using 2 pins this is what I would suggest.

I would see at what distance does the arrow really begin to drop. Shoot 3 arrows at 25 then 27 then 29 then 31, etc until you can really see the definite gravity drop. Sight your first pin for 25 yards and set your second pin 5 yards farther than where your definite gravy drop takes place.

Based on what you are saying, I would bet that drop will be at 31-33 yards, therefore your second pin should be set at about 36 to 38 yards.

Or just go with a 40 yard second pin. You may find that with practice, you can bracket the 2 pins for those 33-35 yard shots.

Also, using my 1 pin set at 25 yards, I know that if I hold my pin at the very top of the withers (just behind the shoulder) at 40 yards the arrow will drop into the lungs/heart area for a kill. So you might want to just practice this as well. Nothing worse than getting pin confusion at that moment of truth. Just my thoughts!

[WNYBuckHunter]

Doe has a good point. What is the weight of your arrows? You dont need 350fps to kill a deer.

[growalot]

I have to ask...because I shoot instinctive...no sights....You never mentioned 10 or 15 yards what effect does shooting with pins have at those ranges? and from trees...I shot my buck at 3-5 yrds out ...only shot he presented me...and have shot several buck within 10-12 yrds..Ya know the ones that sneak in behind and just appear there....

[Doewhacker]

I have to ask...because I shoot instinctive...no sights....You never mentioned 10 or 15 yards what effect does shooting with pins have at those ranges? and from trees...I shot my buck at 3-5 yrds out ...only shot he presented me...and have shot several buck within 10-12 yrds..Ya know the ones that sneak in behind and just appear there....

No need for a pin at those close ranges, 2-3 inches high is no biggie if you are aiming in the lower third.

[growalot]

So you guys just use your 20 and aim low....

[Doewhacker]

Yup, its important to remember deer don't care what you are sighted in for. You must know your equipment and your own capabilities in such a situation. I have never ranged a deer before shooting it, just have a good idea of what my set up will do and approximate yardage.

[growalot]

That's pretty much what I do...I never really mark out exact yardage when moving the target in trees stand practice...over the years...ya just pretty much just know....but it was a bit of an adjustment with the new bow last year...OMG they are so fast compared to a 15yr old bow...shoot much "flatter"

Edited August 30, 2012 by growalot

[beachpeaz]

Another good point WNY. I am not sure what weight the arrows are. I jsut know they are expensive compared to the aluminum arrows I was shooting with my old bow...lol. I am ok with it shooting flat though. I don't want to mess with the weight to calculate drop. i would rather jsut know the drop from the yardages. you all have given me some good insight.

Growalot. When i firrst set up my 20 yard pin i started like 5 feet from the target and kept moving back (didn't want to lose my $15 arrow). I would say that from 5 feet to 25 yards it shoots within a 2 or 3 inch range. Not concerned at all about the close shots. (I can always just jump out of my stand and wrestle him to the ground too...haha).

That is why I come here and ask! I think I will use just 2 pins, figure out where the second one is dead on....36, 38, etc. And then jsut keep shooting alot to know where my arrow hits from 10 yards all the way to 40 or 45. Bow hunting is a lot of instinct.

THANK YOU everyone who posted an opinion.

[growalot]

Not concerned at all about the close shots. (I can always just jump out of my stand and wrestle him to the ground too...haha).

Ya..see with my luck ...he'd "Jump" my lung and I'd break my arse...lol

Have fun and luck this season