newbreed Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 This year i decided i woudl try rage broad heads so i bought a pack of chisel 2 bladed. i have been practiceing quite a bit shooting this year to the point that my father said he has never seen me shoot this good ever, i was shooting from 10-45v yards useing the practice tip that comes with the broadheads, i was under the impression that i didnt have to shoot the actual broadheads cause the practice tip was exactly the same, boy was i wrong, yester day evening 10-28-2012 i was hunting a field edge when at 5:45 a nice 8 point stepped out nothing huge probably 90-100 inches i was all ready relaxed and ready to shoot the deer stepped out to 28 yards...i know this cause i range found him, i pulled back setteled the pin and let her fly.......only to watch my lighted knock miss the deer by about 2 feet left and short. i start woundering what could have happened so i get down head up to the house set the target up knock another rage broad head settle the pin and letter fly....miss 2 feet left and short again....now im really confused so i grab my practice tip rage pull her back let her fly....wouldent ya know bullseye deadon, i pull it our shoot again, dead on, i take my 3rd broad head and shoot...miss 2 feet low and left....what a wast of money these were, and yes i know i shoudl have shot the actual broad head before but i thought that by shooting them i could dammge them cause they are prettty flimsy. so i guess my lesson is learned. the only good to come from the story is that i missed the deer complety and didnt gut shot or ass shot or high back shoot him, so ill have to kill him another day.,.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREDATE Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 That's precisely the reason that I junk the practice tips. I always sacrifice a broadhead and practice with it. I don't shoot rage broadheads, only fixed blade muzzys. I sometimes sharpen the practice blades with a file and whetstone and keep it with me for small game(fox,coyotes,turkeys). It sounds like your sharp broadheads were grouping consistantly! You should be ok for this season if you sight in with a new one. My dad lost a 6pt. shot with the rage 2-blade. It bled good for a while, then blood dried up. I won't use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deerthug Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 You need to broadhead tune your bow using the actual broadhead. It's as simple as moving your arrow rest. I found this video and did it to mine. It shows how to do it with a fixed blade but I did it with my swhackers mechanical and it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 cool ill check that out, im at work right now so cant watch video.....the only thing i was coming up with is that maybe they were opening as i shot and now when they hit. who know but like i said at least no deer was wounded just a straight up bad shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 How to you get the arrows out? I shot one of my broadheads into a hay target and it got lodge in the hay so bad, I had to take a knife to the the hay around my arrow to get it out. Now that block of hay has a big hole in it. Lucky for me, there was no one else there at the range. I used a Montec G5 broadhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGS Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Do your practice arrows have the same lighted nocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I used the Rage practice heads and then used one of the real broad heads. They flew the same. I even broke a knock off of an arrow that was in the target, when the broad head hit it. Who knows. But I think its a good idea to sacrifice one of your brad heads to make sure they fly good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Do your practice arrows have the same lighted nocks? Yes i used the same knocks for practice and hunting they are the easton lighted knocks cost 8 bucks for a 3 pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 My son shoots rage and has expeirenced the same exact problem as you. The practice tip dont shoot worth crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 I guess what ill do is just buy a bunch of O rings and maybe shock collers and use one Broadhead to sight in maybe once thats good ill maybe shoot one other one to make sure we repeat then i shoud be good to go.......hopefully. it was just a total drain of confidence to have that happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I have had good luck with the Rage II's but want to try the Swhackers this season . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish_redneck Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 easton lighted knocks cost 8 bucks for a 3 pack which ones? I'm using the Easton tracers "x" nock, cost about $15 for two.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Newbreed --- try shooting the practice head with your hunting jacket , shirt , whatever . Could you be hitting the sleeve of what you are hunting with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 (edited) Probably not what you want to hear, but my rage shoot the same as FP and practice head. I am not sure I would re-sight for just that broadhead. Might be better to find one that flies like your FPs. I have also had good success with G5s. Just a newbie's opinion, but sighting for a single broadhead that flies that much differently than your FPs will screw it up for FP practice and other broadheads. Edited October 29, 2012 by moog5050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyDaSavage Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 My rage and practice tip fly the same as well but if I was having issues I would definitely use a real rage and just fix it after with an o ring or shock collar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Newbreed --- try shooting the practice head with your hunting jacket , shirt , whatever . Could you be hitting the sleeve of what you are hunting with ? i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbreed Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 oops....i thoight that too Fasteddie but last night i had all my hunting gear on when i went up and tested the other broadheads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Good luck. myself fixed 2 blade Mangus cut on contact, shoots same as a field points, as all broadheads should, no moving parts, o rings ect., deer hardly feel them most run a few steps, stop,then fall over in a bit . Pull it out of the dirt wash it off,run it over a stone, strop, kill the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatmizzer Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I would contact rage and let them know. I have shot Grim reaper, steelhead and rage and all shot just like fp. I think you have a bad batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Arent mechanicals supposed to make it so you dont have to "broadhead tune" your bow? My G5 Montecs fly exactly the same as my field points. If your bow is tuned properly, thats the result you will get with any broadhead except for some of the large 2 blade designs that can be prone to planing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKhunter Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I use Grim Reaper mechanicals....they fly just like my field points since I use the same grain. 3 blades with a huge cutting area. I highly recommend them in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeGuy Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Never have tuned my 2 blade and they fly exactly as my field tips and the practice head do.... hope u can figure it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 Arent mechanicals supposed to make it so you dont have to "broadhead tune" your bow? My G5 Montecs fly exactly the same as my field points. If your bow is tuned properly, thats the result you will get with any broadhead except for some of the large 2 blade designs that can be prone to planing. That is my understanding . It eliminates the need to tune anything . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geno C Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 I never even shoot the practice heads, ever... I shoot my field tips when I practice. Those heads fly exactly like my field tips there is no difference what's so ever. I tend to blame myself unlike most guys who blame their equipment first. Could be possible you bumped your bow in the field. I've never heard of missing a target by 2 feet right after you sighted in with the practice heads, kind of suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted October 29, 2012 Share Posted October 29, 2012 My Rage broadheads shoot exactly like the practice heads and my fieldpoints, 100%. The one and only time I had a broadhead shoot 2' off was because I was using a worn O ring and the blades were deploying in flight. I use to have a quiver and my blades kept opening on that one broadhead that I had problems with. I just kept snapping them back into place, not realizing I was just causing damage to the O ring. The O ring must be new and not cracked, used, or worn in order to lock the blades in place during flight. If you open the blades, then keep snapping them shut, it makes micro tears/cuts in the O rings and weakens them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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