132 eight pointer Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 http://www.13wham.com/news/local/story/People-Shot-at-Scene-of-Webster-Fire/Aov0V53ztUC4bKegOnofrg.cspx This happened this morning a mile or two from my house.Firemen responding to a house fire were shot.Last report said possibly 3 firemen shot.The fire has now spread to at least one more home.Sad,I hope the firemen recover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Yeah its pretty freakin amazing we have to deal with this crap. Not sure why people with issues tend to invole innocent people with there crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACHINIST Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I hope they find that scumbag and stone him in the town square.He probably set the fire so he could shoot the firefighter as they responded.Right before Christmas and this twatwaffle burns someone house down and tries to kill the firefighter that are responding.He/she is a piece of garbage that should be taken out of the gene pool! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132 eight pointer Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 No ! Now the news is reporting two firemen died. I can't believe this. Those poor families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 This is CRAZY!!! whoever is shooting at emergency personel deserves to be exicuted without mercy!!! i bet it was arson and the guy wanted to make sure the house burned completley down, hopefully they can look at the bullets and use them to trace the gun... (rifling marks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmig2 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Wow! It's terrible these wackos do harm to innocent people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I sure hope they catch what ever scum bag or scum bags that did this. Some people don't care about hurting people its really sick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony m Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 My Rochester friend who grew up in Webster, and lives in Brighton, stated that it wouldn't be a surprise if this was drug related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Indian Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 To my brother firefighters who gave their lives this morning we never know what the hell we are up against, Rest in Peace. When duty call's me, oh Lord, Wherever Flames may rage, Give me the strength to save some life Whatever Be its age. Help me embrace a little child Before it is too lateOr save an older person from The horror of that fate Enable me to be alert, and oh Lord, guide my every move, for life is so precious,please don't let us loose. I want to fill my calling and To give the best in me To guard my every neighbor And protect their property And if according to thy will, That I must give my life,Then with thy protecting hand my Lord,I pray thee, protect my children and my wife. Amen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tughillhunter Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 heard that on the news. freakin rediculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'm avoding participation here, but I think this is worth mentioning due to the situation at hand. I believe based on past posts and a conversation, that Larry 302 is a Webster fire fighter or first responder of some sort. My prayers go out regardless, but let's make sure Larry is safe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132 eight pointer Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Larry 302 lives in Webster but I believe he is a Rochester fireman. The responders to this were West Webster volunteer firemen as far as I know. I also heard an unsubstantiated rumor that the homeowner may have been angry at the town about a property dispute. I am just sick about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Indian Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Larry 302 lives in Webster but I believe he is a Rochester fireman. The responders to this were West Webster volunteer firemen as far as I know. I also heard an unsubstantiated rumor that the homeowner may have been angry at the town about a property dispute. I am just sick about this. He is a Rochester FF, I know this b/c we had an inbox conv recently. However, as firefighters we are all BROTHERS and SISTERS, and this really hits home ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wztirem Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Unfortunately the Holiday Season can bring out the worst in people. God speed to those fireman and their families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Just heard of this....another senseless tragedy...God bless their souls and their family and friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132 eight pointer Posted December 26, 2012 Author Share Posted December 26, 2012 I drove by the scene of the ambush today.All I can say is those poor guys had no chance.The shooter was on an elevated side of the road that used to be railroad tracks and he wasn't very far off the road in the dark.It is amazing that the wounded were able to get out and that more people were not hurt.The Webster policeman that engaged the shooter may very well indeed have saved lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 5 minute drive from my house. Scary when it happens in your backyard. My wife and I are attending "the wall" tonight to block the morons at the WBC from protesting. On a side note, I believe this case hurts the anti-gun movement. The guns were owned illegally by a mental insane individual let out of jail after killing his grandma with a hammer. It's a clear indication that banning firearms doesn't work, but instead we need better mental health programs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 As I look at any of these recent tragedies, I just keep asking anyone who will listen, "Which one of today's favorite new gun laws would have prevented any of them"? It's a simple question that any of the anti-gunners should be able to immediately answer. How many of the favorite existing gun laws were blatantly broken? Anyone getting the picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
132 eight pointer Posted December 28, 2012 Author Share Posted December 28, 2012 The New York State parole board shares responsibility in this case.It isn't enough to put these murderers in time out for years and then release them into the community.If someone proves they are capable of killing a woman in her 90's(and a grandmother) then they do not deserve a "manslaughter" lesser charge and shouldn't be out among us to possibly do something "crazy" again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The parole board doesnt, but the judge that allowed the plea deal and handed out a weak sentence sure does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I'm beginning to wonder if anyone gets convicted of the entire scope of the crime anymore. It seems that plea bargaining is just a standard way of doing business these days. Frankly, I don't see any reason for someone that uses a hammer on another person should ever see the outside of a prison again. In fact, a death sentence probably would have been appropriate. I think that all these people worrying about clips and evil looking guns should spend their energy on thinking about how this guy with this background was ever allowed to walk among us again. But then, I suppose that new gun laws require less effort and investment of intellect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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