Doc Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 I probably wont jump right on board this year (unless I get a deal I cant turn down), as Im still swooning over my muzzle loader. I'll bet you won't be the only one that holds off on rifle purchases. For one thing, a lot of people don't have the money to just run out and buy a quality deer rifle. The other thing is that there may be some that can't even find ammo for their rifle. Also, a lot of people won't even be aware that they can use rifles. And then there are the people who just recently bought a shiny new shotgun and will be trying to get some of their money's worth out of it. I wonder how long even after rifles are legalized before there is a significant percentage of the hunters that have converted. Personally, I can't wait to squeeze off that first round at a deer. I've been ready for a long time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I have a lever action 30-30 that may see some action. I just have other things going on with my extra money this year. Dropping $300 + what a scope costs for a combo for my TC just isnt in the stars for me right now. My muzzleloader setup lets me reach out to 200 comfortably. Good enough for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I probably wont jump right on board this year (unless I get a deal I cant turn down), as Im still swooning over my muzzle loader. Then there's always the threat that after one year they don't renew the law! Wouldn't that be a bummer............................................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse.james Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) I went with a TC Icon in a .308. What a shooter but not interchangeable. Price tag is a bit steep. Edited July 5, 2013 by jesse.james Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 Then there's always the threat that after one year they don't renew the law! Wouldn't that be a bummer............................................... If during the trial period, there is even one single incident of a rifle bullet entering a house, or any kind of close calls involving residents, or any such similar incident, fatality or not, even if the same thing could have happened with a shotgun, I would fully expect that that would be the end of rifles in the county forever. Any fatalities that have a look of "long distance" to them, I will guarantee would also have the same result. There are people who have gone along with this only because they had no data of any sort to effectively oppose it. So let's just hope that nothing foolish happens. It won't take much to turn the tables on all of this. Believe me, we who actively supported this change are in a tiny minority. It is only happening because of the usual apathy among those who are either neutral or opposed to the idea. Let's hope that nothing happens to energize that majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 If during the trial period, there is even one single incident of a rifle bullet entering a house, or any kind of close calls involving residents, or any such similar incident, fatality or not, even if the same thing could have happened with a shotgun, I would fully expect that that would be the end of rifles in the county forever. Any fatalities that have a look of "long distance" to them, I will guarantee would also have the same result. There are people who have gone along with this only because they had no data of any sort to effectively oppose it. So let's just hope that nothing foolish happens. It won't take much to turn the tables on all of this. Believe me, we who actively supported this change are in a tiny minority. It is only happening because of the usual apathy among those who are either neutral or opposed to the idea. Let's hope that nothing happens to energize that majority. I think the threat of a long range accident is minimal.......even in the counties were rifles have always been legal, most accidents are close range, and the majority are from people in the same hunting party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think the threat of a long range accident is minimal.......even in the counties were rifles have always been legal, most accidents are close range, and the majority are from people in the same hunting party.I hear all that, and I sure do hope you are right, but all I am saying is that if even one little incident occurs, the residential public will be all over that in a way like you could never imagine. I have heard from some of these people in local town forums and phone calls and e-mail, and even talked to a couple of town supervisors that were against the change, and I'll just say that there are a lot of people who simply are looking for one shred of ammunition. A lot of this has been conducted completely under the radar. Not purposely being a stealth law, but simply because it hasn't hit any significant level of notoriety yet. Opposition supervisors were not successful in stirring up their constituents against the bill. Let's hope that nobody gives these people credibility with some bone-head incident. I know they would not hesitate to elevate the issue and stir up opposition that so far has not materialized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Then maybe Onondaga county will pass it If only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Then maybe Onondaga county will pass it If only... Hell, you never know. I NEVER thought they'd even entertain thoughts of opening Livingston or Wayne Counties but they are now on the table also. Fingers crossed................................................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Oh the thoughts of posting up on a section of power lines and looking at a buck cross through my Nikon buck master optics on the .308 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesse.james Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Oh the thoughts of posting up on a section of power lines and looking at a buck cross through my Nikon buck master optics on the .308 > Its a good time. That's what I'm using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Actually, my reason for wanting to use a rifle has nothing to do with distance. I simply want a deer hunting weapon that doesn't beat the snot out of me everytime I pull the trigger. I want something that I can spend significant leisurely time on the bench practicing with and actually enjoying the experience. I want a gun that I can relax with and shoot with comfort and that often translates to accuracy. I've done my time with that old 12 gauge Ithaca Deerslayer. It getting to be time to shoot with a bit less punishment. Distance??? ..... I still probably won't be shooting much over 100 yards. Most of the time where I hunt there isn't a clear shot over a 100 yards anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 It's Official: Get those rifles sighted in --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STATUS:S3929 NOZZOLIO Same as A 5574 Kolb Environmental Conservation LawTITLE....Authorizes hunting in the county of Ontario until October 1, 2015 02/27/13 REFERRED TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION 03/12/13 1ST REPORT CAL.184 03/13/13 2ND REPORT CAL. 03/14/13 ADVANCED TO THIRD READING 04/23/13 PASSED SENATE 04/23/13 DELIVERED TO ASSEMBLY 04/24/13 referred to environmental conservation 06/19/13 substituted for a5574 06/19/13 ordered to third reading rules cal.422 06/19/13 passed assembly 06/19/13 returned to senate 07/02/13 DELIVERED TO GOVERNOR 07/12/13 SIGNED CHAP.144 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 How about Wayne doc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 How about Wayne doc? Just a minute and I will go check. That one was signed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now.......what to carry on opening day?? 243 (soon to be a 260 I hope) 7mm-08 or 300WSM. My 25-06 is probably going down the road and the 375HNH isn't even in the running. It'll should be the 300WSM as it hasn't seen much lovin' in a bit. Hot Dog....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Good luck al of you guys!!! Enjoy the rifles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhe Wiz Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Now if only TOMPKINS county would get their heads out of their you-know-whats and allow rifles here. The only county NOT to oppose the SAFE act isn't likely to add rifles any time soon. Disgusting. Zhe Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 I guess its time to dust off the 30-30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 My 7mm Mag used for deer in Wyoming, will bring down some deer in 8N now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) They all sound like great choices! Load 'em up and get 'em sighted in. Everybody should strive to burn up a box or two of ammo before opening day, at a minimum. Twist my arm................... Edited July 16, 2013 by Lawdwaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now.......what to carry on opening day?? 243 (soon to be a 260 I hope) 7mm-08 or 300WSM. My 25-06 is probably going down the road and the 375HNH isn't even in the running. It'll should be the 300WSM as it hasn't seen much lovin' in a bit. Hot Dog....... I did good last year when I took my tip that the Ontario County rifle law was a lock, and I bought that .270 caliber American Ruger. I've had all this time to be practicing with that thing and my biggest choice will be what hair on the deer I want to hit ..... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 I tried to find the Livingston county bill but it seems to be in limbo some where?? The bBill # sent me to a long list of bills but had nothing about it where I looked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I dont think the Livingston bill made it to the Senate or Assembly in time to be voted on this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabin Fever Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Don't forget to update your "Hunting Gun" in your member profile, with your new rifles too! Woo-Hoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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