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Do you have alink where he warned us there would be anything bad about the unsafe act.  I guess I missed that one.

Cuomo was warned by gun makers and conservatives this would be bad. I think you misunderstood the post Bubba.

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Doing the right thing by selling out on their loyal life time employees by going to a state where they can pay the labor 8 bucks an hour without health insurance or any paid time off all while claiming they are true patriots, nice.

BULL! Don't get that union crap involved here. Unions have no pull in the south because they are not wanted or needed by the workers.

All the current employees are being offered transfers. Remington has always offered health insurance and paid time off. So do most large corporations in the area they are moving to. Probably no relocation paid and hourly rates competitive for the area, but a better life and a job where freedom still means something is better than $405 per week in NY unemployment.

They're not selling out, they are escaping tyranny and extortion by the state government. They know soon most of their products will be illegal in NY, so why would they be expected to stay here?

If the Remington workers want to cry about injustice, they should've all been in Albany the day after the Safe Act was signed. But unions support Cuomo, don't they? You lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

True Patriots don't comply with tyranny. The tree of Liberty has to constantly watered, sometimes with the blood of true Patriots. If you can't move to stand up for New Yorker's rights and liberty, you are not a true Patriot.

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Doing the right thing by selling out on their loyal life time employees by going to a state where they can pay the labor 8 bucks an hour without health insurance or any paid time off all while claiming they are true patriots, nice.  

Right thing or wrong thing, I don't believe they were given a lot of choice. And while they are the largest of the arms manufacturers, there are getting to be quite a few others that are forced into making the same decision.....all representing jobs and benefits for NYS people as well as the loss of tax revenues and contributions to the NYS economy. Lets put our wrath where it belongs, and that is not the gun manufacturers. I think Remington and others were perfectly happy where they were until the SAFE Act.

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Did you read my last post?

What part don't you understand?

 

I read your post, after I posted my question.

 

What's wrong is that this company feels compelled to move away from NY, as have many others, oftentimes having nothing to do with the restrictive gun laws here.

What's wrong is that several hundred employees will be faced with the option of being out of work, or uprooting their lives.

What's wrong is that an American icon will be lost from the state of NY.

What's wrong is that another section of NYS will become an economic ghost town.

 

It could be argued that Remington Arms is doing the right thing for their business and their shareholders. I have no doubt that the move was being contemplated before SAFE because it's a business decision. Cheaper labor, better business environment, lower taxes, etc, etc, etc.

 

It could also be argued, I guess, that Remington's move is in some small way good for an argument against our current governor. I can't personally allow myself to think like that in good conscience. I'm not into sacrificial lambs.

 

I'm also not sold on the argument that running away is somehow the patriotic thing to do.

 

If you have other reasons why you think Remington's move is the 'right thing', I'd like to hear them.

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If you think Remington was looking to relocate prior to the Safe Act, absorbing millions in relocation costs for nothing, you're wrong.

Who needs high taxes and over regulation? Nobody. I'm sure they didn't want to do this to their employees. But when stockholders demand it, and many loyal customers tell you boycotts are coming, business demands profitable decisions.

The move has everything to do with the Safe Act, because NY offered all sorts of bribes for them to stay to no avail. All of which were at taxpayer expense by the way.

Remington employees should be blaming Cuomo. If they are not, they're stupid. The same goes for the folks left to live in the ghost town. None of this would've happened if Cuomo wasn't a fool. For Remington, this was the last straw.

I can't believe any gun owner would blame Remington for this decision instead of Cuomo. No company should stay and produce tax revenue for any government that hates them.

You guys want to show Leftists there is a cost to anti-gun laws? This is the way it should be done. It's not running away, it's voting for freedom.

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If anyone needs a good consultant for business relocation ....private message me.

Remington like many other NY business have there backs against the wall. They are held up by over regulation and oppressive taxes. If you think they are the only companies and individuals that are leaving for those reasons you have your head in the sand. Further more the dirty little secret that New York politicians and there lap dogs in the media are failing to show you, is the difference in education, employment and wealth of individuals leaving vs relocating to NY.

The productive leave while the leaches come.

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Doing the right thing by selling out on their loyal life time employees by going to a state where they can pay the labor 8 bucks an hour without health insurance or any paid time off all while claiming they are true patriots, nice.

I do work in the south. While the wages are less, the insurance is not. And the cost of living is. Does not just apply to just guns. Wake up and notice unions, high taxes and unfriendly regulations are driving manufacturing to these states. Remington is not alone, but urban centers continue to vote in liberals so they can get hand outs and not work. Win win.

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You have to look at this from the liberal perspective.

 

You see, if the Remington folks were good people, they would keep the jobs where they are, even if they were losing money at the plant. By moving those jobs to a friendlier climate, they are just proving that they are evil and don’t belong in a good place like New York.

 

Maybe we need even more restrictions, so that more immoral anti-worker companies like Remington will be forced out. Yeah, that’s it! Fewer jobs = better for people!

 

Can’t feel much sympathy for union workers (UMW at Remington) given the monolithic and massive support given to the Democrat party by all unions. (plus the appearance of corruption when it’s a government union)  They told Remington workers to vote for Cuomo and many probably did.

 

They’ve gotten what they are proponents of:

Socialism/Big Government/Financial Largesse for some at the expense of the many.

Union propagandists have been putting their members out of work for years. (sort of like how Journalists’ lack of objectivity is killing News reporting.)

 

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Doing the right thing by selling out on their loyal life time employees by going to a state where they can pay the labor 8 bucks an hour without health insurance or any paid time off all while claiming they are true patriots, nice.

This +10000

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