Don't forget to get Get out and VOTE Tuesday November 4th

[steve863]

I am a registered republican, but did not vote. Never voted in my life.

 

 

Seriously?   You are 30 and never voted?  I definitely didn't vote in every election, didn't vote in the last presidential election actually, since I knew for sure that Mickey Mouse would have a better chance of winning NY then Romney did.  I was getting tired of holding my nose at the ballot box.  However, I made damned sure I voted against Cuomo yesterday, eventhough I knew he'd win.  It was just for the principle if nothing else.  I can't stand the bastard for way more reasons than just the SAFE act, so I made sure I cast my vote against him just for my own satisfaction if for nothing else.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Poster child for what is freaking wrong with our country. "Doesn't affect me, so why should I care?"

[BizCT]

I was going to vote for McCain in 2008, but I worked late that night. Never had a desire since.

[BizCT]

Seriously?   You are 30 and never voted?  I definitely didn't vote in every election, didn't vote in the last presidential election actually, since I knew for sure that Mickey Mouse would have a better chance of winning NY then Romney did.  I was getting tired of holding my nose at the ballot box.  However, I made damned sure I voted against Cuomo yesterday, eventhough I knew he'd win.  It was just for the principle if nothing else.  I can't stand the bastard for way more reasons than just the SAFE act, so I made sure I cast my vote against him just for my own satisfaction if for nothing else.

 

I don't follow politics. Before the SAFE Act, I couldn't tell you anything about Cuomo.

[Marion]

I don't follow politics. Before the SAFE Act, I couldn't tell you anything about Cuomo.

 

the fact that you have never voted in any election is proof positive of exactly what is wrong with this country

[BizCT]

the fact that you have never voted in any election is proof positive of exactly what is wrong with this country

 

I'm not going to vote, just to say I voted. If I am going to put my name down to vote for someone/something, I would want to do a full review/research and weigh my options, etc.  So far in my life, I have not had the desire to spend any of my free time doing this.  Yesterday, for example, I did not research all of Astorino or Cuomo's plans for office. I also worked past 9pm last night and wasn't going to leave NYC to go to Westchester to vote, just to come back to NYC to work.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Gotcha, Better to nothing than anything

[dbHunterNY]

Don't mean to be part of a gang assault on you Biz but you should want to do a little research enough to vote, at least once. Also your dilemma is the reason there's absentee ballots. Only half the active registered republicans in ny voted. If they did it would have been astorino as 500,000 votes ahead of Cuomo. You being inactive having not ever voted would've add to that number.

[HectorBuckBuster]

Biz, you say the Safe Act does not effect you will learn a hard lesson.You sir is what is called a FUDD. Its BS if my friend wants to sell me a gun, to someone he has known his whole life, we have to go do a back ground check. I can not own a Ruger 10/22 with a thumb hole stock, because that is considered a assault weapon, and would have to be registered in nY because of the Safe Act. And if I owned this weapon and died, it would have to be sold out of state or turned in and could not be passed down to my daughter. Yes, a 22 is considered a assault weapon.

Edited November 5, 2014 by HectorBuckBuster

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Biz, you say the Safe Act does not effect you will learn a hard lesson.You sir is what is caled a FUDD. Its BS if my friend wants to sell me a gun, to someone he has known his whole life, we have to go do a back ground check. I can not own a Ruger 10/22 with a thumb hole stock, because that is considered a assault weapon, and would have to be registered in nY because of the Safe Act. And if I owned this weapon and died, it would have to be sold out of state or turned in and could not be passed down to my daughter. Yes, a 22 is considered a assault weapon.

but but but...It doesn't affect him

[pistolp71]

Biz, besides not being able to buy ammo online, you also can't just sell one of your Weatherby hunting rifles to your buddy anymore without jumping through hoops. It affects every gun owner.

[nyantler]

I am a registered republican, but did not vote. Never voted in my life.

That is your right... but I promise I will give you crap every time you so much as mention an issue that bothers you about the Safe Act, or taxes etc.... in fact I'll save myself the trouble and just tell you to shut up now...  you had your chance to complain yesterday with a vote... if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Nothing personal... I would do that to my best friends.

[BizCT]

Biz, besides not being able to buy ammo online, you also can't just sell one of your Weatherby hunting rifles to your buddy anymore without jumping through hoops. It affects every gun owner.

 

 

We've sold rifles since the SAFE Act was put into place. It wasn't a big deal IMO.

 

but but but...It doesn't affect him

 

Correct.

 

That is your right... but I promise I will give you crap every time you so much as mention an issue that bothers you about the Safe Act, or taxes etc.... in fact I'll save myself the trouble and just tell you to shut up now...  you had your chance to complain yesterday with a vote... if you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Nothing personal... I would do that to my best friends.

 

I've never complained on this forum about the SAFE Act. Regarding taxes, I only comment when people from upstate complain about taxes, when they aren't in fact nearly as bad as Westchester. If I wanted to have lower taxes, I would move upstate.

[Skillet]

Don't vote? Never complained about the SAFE act? So does that mean you believe it's a sensible set of laws? Maybe you would call them "common sense gun control measures"?

]I'm only 30 & I don't pretend to be smart about politics, but I wouldn't dream of not voting. I know what issues are important to me. It doesn't take much research to figure out what Cuomo has in mind, and what his opinion is of conservatives. The SAFE act alone should've been enough to get every one of us out to vote against Cuomo. With all the talk about Cuomo & all the media attention given to him, you must intentionally have the blinders on to say you've don't have enough knowledge of his "plans" to influence your vote. I'm not even saying you need to put your faith in what you read on this site, watch on Fox, or hear on conservative talk radio. Facts are facts. Even with an unbiased opinion presenting them to you, the facts about Cuomo's history, policies, & on record opinions should scare the s**t out of you. Sitting on this forum and talking about our next big hunt is nice. It's gotta be nice to say "it doesn't affect me", and ignore it. But, it will affect us all eventually. This stuff is spreading like cancer, and if you think it won't get to you, you're ignorant. Even moving to another state will only delay it. At best we're in big trouble, and with people thinking about just themselves & their shortsighted interest, we are screwed. There will never be a day when the anti-gunners say "OK, we're happy with the gun control laws we have in place. We dont need any more." Oh wait, yes they will, the day private gun ownership is banned.

Edited November 5, 2014 by Skillet

[nyantler]

I've never complained on this forum about the SAFE Act. Regarding taxes, I only comment when people from upstate complain about taxes, when they aren't in fact nearly as bad as Westchester. If I wanted to have lower taxes, I would move upstate.

Yeah I know you aren't one of the complainers... but I stand by what I said... at least you had the guts to be truthful about not voting and give a reason why? I still don't understand it... but I can respect your guts to not hide from it.

 

But based on the fact that you didn't vote and fight to help your fellow gun owners... I wouldn't want to be trapped in a fox hole with you... can't trust a man that won't stand with his fellow gun owners.

 

Edited November 6, 2014 by nyantler

[irish_redneck]

If I knew nothing else , all I need to know is that the way the safe act was brought forward and enacted was illegal and all those involved should be removed from power, preferably prosecuted.

[ants]

but but but...It doesn't affect him

Sooner or later it will… and he'll be pissed….But if he doesn't want to vote………whatever..

[growalot]

Oh Lordy I have to ask...what is it?

 

.You sir is what is called a FUDD.

 

 Hubby quessed  "F" Uneducated Dumb Democrat....but Biz said he was republican soooo???....lol

[tony m]

I don't follow politics. Before the SAFE Act, I couldn't tell you anything about Cuomo.

 

That's normal. I came from a family who didn't want or look into what is the cause of issues.  The majority of people thru the decades have been conditioned not to talk politics at work, so that evolved into everyday life.

 

What got me investigating was back in 2007 when I heard the sentence, "The dollar today is worth 4 cents compared to the dollar of 1913 when the Federal Reserve took it over."  I didn't understand any of it, so I started to research.  From there I learned how wealth is transferred from the people to the government.  My families wealth was being stolen so I have to stick up for myself and them.  I had decades of learning to catch up with from what we are not taught.

 

Hope you will lead your family and like a growing segment of people, start to figure out what the heck is going on with our nation and Freedom in general.

Edited November 6, 2014 by tony m

[HectorBuckBuster]

A FUDD is Slang term for a "casual" gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports and does not truly believe in the true premise of the second amendment. These people also generally treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearms like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with unwarranted scorn or contempt.

[Doc]

Ha-ha .... Normally I would be bouncing off the keyboard over these outrageous confessions of Biz-R-OWorld, but I am getting beaten own and buried by these self absorbed and self centered attitudes. I think his I-don't-give-a-crap attitude is way more prevalent than we could ever imagine. As disgusting as it may be, he is not alone when it comes to irresponsibility in a participatory government. Look at the voting percentages, particularly these non presidential elections. There is no excuse, but there is no denying that his attitude is much more widespread than we would like to think. And then we sit back and wonder where our rights have gone. It's pretty obvious now isn't it?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

A FUDD is Slang term for a "casual" gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports and does not truly believe in the true premise of the second amendment. These people also generally treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearms like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with unwarranted scorn or contempt.

As in Elmer FUDD

[Culvercreek hunt club]

The Left get's one or two birth control options taken away by a few employers who object based on Religious grounds and they light the freaking world up. We get an expressed right trampled on and just can't seem to get enough support stirred up. Really makes me shake my head, load more ammo and wonder when we are going to run out of tracks for this run away train we are on.

[nyantler]

I really had hopes of a much better turn out from gun owners... nearly 6 million in this state... if half had come out to vote against Cuomo we would have had a new governor and gotten a chance to repeal the Safe Act... like a true conservative I deal with reality... and the reality is that the apathy in this state runs so rampant... the rest of us paying attention and who care don't stand a chance... if it was 1776 we would be on our way to continued British rule... and some of us true fighters for our Constitutional 2nd amendment right would be dead from battle or on our way to a firing squad... the rest of the apathetic gun owners would be kissing the kings ass.

[Doc]

I had the whole scenario doped out completely wrong. I was hoping that this being an "in-between" election year that most of the general electorate would adopt a Biz-R-OWorld style mentality and stay home. That part probably did happen. Then part two would be that the gun owners would be so incensed at having their rights trampled by Andy that they would be at the polls eager to bounce the little creep out. That part did not happen. And the third part would be the people who all have other gripes with Cuomo on other hot button issues would show up to vote anti-Cuomo also.

 

All of that scenario should have come together to create the upset. It all was very feasible. The problem is that I over-estimated the outrage, or the gun-owner apathy. And who knows maybe the amount of people who had other problems with Cuomo was over estimated, or maybe the apathy among their ranks was worse than I anticipated.

 

Anyway, we had it in our power to send a message that would have lasted decades and put the fear of God into those that would vote for further gun control. Somehow we blew it. An opportunity of a lifetime was squandered, and now all those gun-owners who sat home will sit around complaining about how government is unresponsive and determined to remove our rights, blah...blah.....blah and so on and so forth. And life goes on as usual and nothing changes other than the continued and predictable eroding of our rights. Damn! it's frustrating.