Carry shotgun during MZ season

[Elmo]

Can I carry a muzzleloader AND a field shotgun load with bird shot at the same time during the late season?

[greensider]

depends on what warden you run in to i spoke with albany about having a bow and gun during gun season they were asking other wardens in the room and got several answers i would call albany and get an answer and get the persons name who gives you an answer so you are covered remember this is america you are guilty untill you prove your inosince  

[Pygmy]

 

Can I carry a muzzleloader AND a field shotgun load with bird shot at the same time during the late season?

 

Geeze Elmo...All the time with the tough questions...<<grin>>..

I am only guessing at this, but I think that as long as you have no single projectile or buckshot ammo for the shotgun you would be ok.

It is PERFECTLY legal to hunt small game with small shot during deer season as long as you do not have any slugs/buckshot on your person.

[genesee_mohican]

If your hunting deer, you can't carry a shotgun with bird shot.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8305.html

 

It is unlawful to hunt big game with:  A shotgun of less than 20 gauge or any shotgun loaded with shells other than those carrying a single projectile.

So, assuming your taking your muzzle loader to hunt deer and want to shoot small game if get the chance, um it doesn't sound legal. I'd do one or the other.

[Pygmy]

Nope.... You are not allowed to shoot deer with #6 shot, but there is nothing illegal about carrying shotshells with you while deer hunting and shooting grouse, squirrels, rabbits, pheasants, ducks, geese or other legal game in season.

If you shoot at a DEER, you are required to use single projectile ammo.

[Elmo]

Yes, at this point I think I'm just going to go around and kick anything up.  What ever gives me an opportunity, I'll use the appropriate tool if it's legal to do so.  Just want to make sure it's legal to do so.

Edited December 10, 2014 by Elmo

[Doc]

At the following address: http://www.dec.ny.go...tdoor/8305.html I found this near the bottom under "Muzzleloading":

 

"Hunters shall not have in their possession, or be accompanied by a person who has in his or her possession, a bow or firearm other than the legal muzzleloading firearm."

[greensider]

so acording to that read it is not legal

[ididnotvoteforobama]

At the following address: http://www.dec.ny.go...tdoor/8305.html I found this near the bottom under "Muzzleloading":

 

"Hunters shall not have in their possession, or be accompanied by a person who has in his or her possession, a bow or firearm other than the legal muzzleloading firearm."

 

I would say this covers the muzzle loading  season.... regular season????????????????

[growalot]

That makes no sense when both ML and late bow season runs at the same time...That's saying if your hunting partner hunts with a bow and you a ML...Your not allowed to walk in or out of. The woods together????

[greensider]

it has been that way for a long time you are not supposed to hunt together i think they made a change recently but there are still limitations as to distance if i remember right

[virgil]

I think you guys are overanalyzing the 'accompanied by' part of that line.  I would imagine that it's intended to mean that you cannot be hunting together, as in sitting in a blind together or as in a mentor/youth situation.

[growalot]

Still makes no sense...it is even a joined tag.....

[greensider]

it used to be together meant even in the same woods but i am pretty sure i read a couple of years ago that changed to sitting together

[Elmo]

At the following address: http://www.dec.ny.go...tdoor/8305.html I found this near the bottom under "Muzzleloading":

"Hunters shall not have in their possession, or be accompanied by a person who has in his or her possession, a bow or firearm other than the legal muzzleloading firearm."

Well, that pretty much ends my idea. Thanks Doc. Donny know why I missed that.

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[wildcat junkie]

Sounds like a good time to have ML dbl barrel shot gun. load # 7 1/2s in the right barrel, a .710 patched RB in the left. Should be good for about 40 yds & it would knock a deer flat.

[greensider]

doubles are not legal

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Still makes no sense...it is even a joined tag.....

I see what you mean Grow. Both implements are legal in the late season in SZ and if you have purchased both privileges, I can't see why you couldn't have a bow, a crossbow and a ML.  All 3  are legal in that late season.

[Elmo]

I can see not being able to carry a rifle during MZ season since you can use it to an added advantage but I'm not so sure a shotgun with a #6 shot will take a deer better than a MZ. Makes even less sense when accompanied with a bow like Grow stated. Oh well. Common sense and logic won't get me out of a fine so I'll just follow the rules regardless of how dumb they are.

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[thphm]

Hmm, what about the special season in Jan. on L.I. ( shotgun and Muzzy.)

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Hmm, what about the special season in Jan. on L.I. ( shotgun and Muzzy.)

Didn't LI fall into the ocean? You guys are all screwed up down there with your regulations..lol

[Doc]

Sounds like a good time to have ML dbl barrel shot gun. load # 7 1/2s in the right barrel, a .710 patched RB in the left. Should be good for about 40 yds & it would knock a deer flat.

Same page of that web site:

 

"The legal firearm for this season is a muzzleloading rifle or pistol (including smoothbore muzzleloaders) loaded through the muzzle, shooting a single projectile and having a bore of .44 inches or larger. Double-barreled muzzleloaders and percussion cap revolvers are not legal during the special muzzleloading season."

[thunnus]

If your hunting deer, you can't carry a shotgun with bird shot.

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8305.html

It is unlawful to hunt big game with: A shotgun of less than 20 gauge or any shotgun loaded with shells other than those carrying a single projectile.

So, assuming your taking your muzzle loader to hunt deer and want to shoot small game if get the chance, um it doesn't sound legal. I'd do one or the other.

Gander mountain sells buckshot and tried to convince me it is legal for deer here in NYS.

[steve863]

Didn't LI fall into the ocean? You guys are all screwed up down there with your regulations..lol

 

 

Geno escaped before he got washed away.  Don't think I've seen any big buck kills from him this year either.  Not as easy killing them upstate as it was on LI.  LOL

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Gander mountain sells buckshot and tried to convince me it is legal for deer here in NYS.

You will be really hard pressed to find a person working at one of those retailers that knows their butt from their elbow. I have heard conversations like that and I just can't help but correct the person. These salespeople should just button it if they don't know. I have seen it at Dick's, Field and Stream, Bass Pro and Gander.