tommyc50 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 hi , i have a problem with my rifle[ marlin 30-30 ] i went to the range last year iwas shooting 6" left and the same high tried to turn the turrents the up and down bottomed out and the left and right was very tight ,well i want to buy a new scope and see-thru bases i seen a scope i liked on cabelas and midway usa had the bases .do you guys think this will help i missed a deer last year 96 yds and want to start early before the season to correct the problem also anyone know a gunsmith on long island or close to the city that would install and bore sight the scope thank you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Get bore sighted, use a lead sled and shoot one shot, without moving the gun adjust the sights from the bullseye to your bullet hole using the dials. Fine tune after that.new scope and rings can never hurt but usually there is something else wrong such as loose rings or mounted incorrectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkln Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 +1 Get it bore sighted first... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If you're bottomed out you have a bad scope or your mounting system is is off. (thank you Captain obvious LOL) Have someone check the rings and bases and +2 on the bore sight. If The gear on the rifle is old and cheap, just cut to the chase and start over with newer better stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I agree if it bottomed out the scope is shot...If that was me i would put a new scope on the gun and be done with it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphm Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Scope mounts are off.Hope you did not go Too Far with the adjustments on the scope. Very gently adjust scope one way till it stops Up till it stops and then Down till it stops ( count the Clicks) set it in the center as 20 clicks total move it 10 clicks back. Do the same for side to side. Mount it back in the rings . Get it bore sighted ,that will tell what is off. Or shoot it .If you have to go near the end of the adjustments the mounts are off or not mounted correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimMac Posted June 29, 2015 Share Posted June 29, 2015 First off , you should mount the scope as low as it goes to the rifle/shotgun , 2nd , shoulder the gun as you would normally be using it , offhand , prone , kneeling ... with eyes closed , then open eye , if your not looking through scope then u need to build up your cheek rest on the stock, and also set the eye relief so you dont see the black ring in the scope. then when all that is done , bore site it if possible , remove the bolt and look down the bore and align it all up ... then u should be on paper ... this all can be done at 25yrds need more help ,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyc50 Posted June 29, 2015 Author Share Posted June 29, 2015 thank you for the responses i think ants was right i bore sighted the rifle the rifle is old the scope looks like it came as a package the bases flip the scope to the side to access the open sights never seen that before . i still need a gunsmith though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuseHunter Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 there are a few good "see-thru" style ring bases, I'm sure if yours came with the gun as did the scope, it would be best in my opinion to replace the rings/base and the scope. With the cost involved in sighting in a rifle and shooting, it just doesn't make sense to cheap out and not replace the rings too for ~$25 to be safe. I'd recommend a vortex, nikon, or higher-end bushnell model. With a 30-30, don't worry about getting anything more than a 2-7x or 3-9x. either mount it yourself if you know what to do or can learn from reading and/or watching videos online. If you don't think you can do it right, then I'd say go to a gunsmith, in which it usually is best to buy the base and scope there when you have them mount it for you. overall, if it were me- I'd buy the following and mount it myself. (I'm not sure on the model of your gun and the mounting style for the rings/bases so the see-thru mount might be different from my choice). See-thru rings: $19 http://www.amazon.com/Leupold-Rifleman-Detachable-See-Thru-55880/dp/B001HN5H8Y Scope: variable zoom- http://www.natchezss.com/bushnell-trophy-xlt-riflescope-150858.html *I'd even recommend considering getting a fixed zoom scope (4x) since the style of hunting done with a lever rifle is less than 200 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 i bought rings where u can see thru the bottom and use the iron sights. i did this because i was walking in the woods a few years back and slipped on some ice. banged my scope good. and proceeded to whiff on a deer. just some added insurance if that ever happens again. like they said. bore sight, but make sure you put some rounds thru the gun before you take it in the woods. bore sighting will get you on paper at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 i bought rings where u can see thru the bottom and use the iron sights. i did this because i was walking in the woods a few years back and slipped on some ice. banged my scope good. and proceeded to whiff on a deer. just some added insurance if that ever happens again. like they said. bore sight, but make sure you put some rounds thru the gun before you take it in the woods. bore sighting will get you on paper at best. I used to have the same but since then have switched to quick detach rings so I could use either or. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not a fan a see though rings. proper head placement and steadiness is loss with your head elevated to the height to use the scope. when that steadiness is gone so is your accuracy. I would rather see it mounted low and with a very low magnification variable scope of low power fixed. check out the vortex low power variables life time warranty and their customer service is great. http://www.cameralandny.com/optics/vortex.pl?page=vortexcrossfireii2-7x32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve863 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Not a fan a see though rings. proper head placement and steadiness is loss with your head elevated to the height to use the scope. when that steadiness is gone so is your accuracy. I would rather see it mounted low and with a very low magnification variable scope of low power fixed. I completely agree, the see thru mounts are the absolute worse thing one could put on a rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 I completely agree, the see thru mounts are the absolute worse thing one could put on a rifle. only thing worse is the hinged ones that allow you to flop the scope over to use the iron sights............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3h Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 If it's a lever gun scope mtg is a challenge Ol dog on a stray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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