CharlieNY Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So today I go to a local town clerk to get my new hunting/fishing licenses. I am the first one there and the only one in line. The clerk puts all my info into the computer and it takes just shy of 1/2 hour before the computer prints out my licenses. This could have been done by hand in less than 5 minutes. A short while later my son calls me and tells me he is going to go and get his new licenses. He calls me later and tells me that he had gone to Walmart and that there was a guy who had been waited on and was still waiting 45 minutes later to get his licenses. So my son tells me he goes to Bass Pro Shops and there is a man and his wife in line who were unable to get their licenses. The clerk tells him that there is a problem but decides to try for him and it comes back that there is no record of him. While there the local Dick's calls Bass Pro to see if they are having problems with their computer as they cannot get licenses through theirs. This system was supposed to make getting licenses faster and more efficient, but like many computer systems, has done just the opposite. Now my son has to return to the issuing agent on another day at another time to get his license (Hopefully). So have any of you had problems with the system and what is your opinion on this system which seems to be doing more damage than good? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Expected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So today I go to a local town clerk to get my new hunting/fishing licenses. I am the first one there and the only one in line. The clerk puts all my info into the computer and it takes just shy of 1/2 hour before the computer prints out my licenses. This could have been done by hand in less than 5 minutes. A short while later my son calls me and tells me he is going to go and get his new licenses. He calls me later and tells me that he had gone to Walmart and that there was a guy who had been waited on and was still waiting 45 minutes later to get his licenses. So my son tells me he goes to Bass Pro Shops and there is a man and his wife in line who were unable to get their licenses. The clerk tells him that there is a problem but decides to try for him and it comes back that there is no record of him. While there the local Dick's calls Bass Pro to see if they are having problems with their computer as they cannot get licenses through theirs. This system was supposed to make getting licenses faster and more efficient, but like many computer systems, has done just the opposite. Now my son has to return to the issuing agent on another day at another time to get his license (Hopefully). So have any of you had problems with the system and what is your opinion on this system which seems to be doing more damage than good? Don't blame computer systems for the shortcomings of the humans behind them. If done properly, computer systems can be unimaginably powerful and efficient. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) . This system was supposed to make getting licenses faster and more efficient, Was it though?....I'm not so sure. First attempt last year and this year was a failure. The 'system' was down both times. Seems no one thought to fix the kinks over the last year. Edited August 11, 2015 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Don't blame computer systems for the shortcomings of the humans behind them. If done properly, computer systems can be unimaginably powerful and efficient. Pen and pencil on good old paper ain't bad either, when humans are behind them. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Must have purchased from China, our friends, LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) Government Computer Failures are Normal http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/11/government_computer_failures_are_normal.html How could the U.S. Government make such a mess of the roll-out of the website for ObamaCare? Actually, government computer systems incompetence is normal. The reaction to www.HealthCare.gov presupposes that our government normally does these things well. The Internal Revenue Service made an even worse disaster out of its $8 billion computer upgrade project labeled its "Business Systems Modernization." First, the IRS wasted $3 billion in the 1990's. Then the IRS started over in 1999 with a new attempt. By 2004, eight major projects were over-budget by $200 million, according to the U.S. General Accounting Office and the congressionally chartered IRS Oversight Board. The first stage to go live was three years behind schedule and $36.8 million over budget. The federal government botched the $438 million computer upgrade for Air Traffic Controllers under the Federal Aviation Administration at the U.S. Department of Transportation. As of May 2013, the system is projected to go over-budget by $270 million, a 62 percent error, reported the U.S. Transportation Department's Inspector General. Meanwhile, a separate $2.4 billion high-altitude system has also gone over-budget by $300 million, and may cost yet another $200 million more. The Defense Department spent $500 million on a Defense Travel System (DTS) to enable its personnel to use negotiated volume discount rates for airplane flights, hotels, and rental cars. The project dragged on for seven years, and was a mess. Like ObamaCare, airplane tickets often cost more, such as a $4,400 ticket on DTS in one example for a flight available for only $900 on Expedia. Edited August 11, 2015 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 For 12 years or so the USPS has been delivering my license packet to me. You guys should save up and buy a lifetime license................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 You guys should save up and buy a lifetime license................... I'd prefer to maintain the right to not purchase one, should the need arise in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterman7956 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I DID IT AT HOME FROM MY COMPUTER AND IT WAS A BREEZE GOT ALL MY PERMITS IN ABOUT 5 MIN . LATE IN THE DAY MY BUDDY DID THE SAME AND IT TOOK ALL OF 8 OR SO MINUTES . I GUESS I WAS LUCKY .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'd prefer to maintain the right to not purchase one, should the need arise in the future. OK, good reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I've been doing mine at home via the internet since it first became available that way........never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternNY Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 LOL http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/NYSDEC/bulletins/112184f 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimMac Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 went to the town clerk office Monday , guy in chair waiting 30 min , finally it prints but no fishing license, system frozen up .. guy leaves , next guy .. 45 minutes to print . finally the system seem to running faster ( 1/2 of NY got dumped from the net ) LOL mine went thru in like 15 mins. So in the mean time were all talking BS and the town clerk says he says this is new software again ,, and this is on purpose , they want us all to go online to get them and when that happens one day comming NO HUNTING in New York ... the big guy running the DEC is the biggest tree hugger in NY .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny hunter Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Got mine at Dicks last night,in and out of the store in 19 mins.....No problem at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 So the online site kinda of works but you can only purchase a regular season tag right now. No other tag options are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mossberg500Guy Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 LOL http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/NYSDEC/bulletins/112184f The only thing that NYS cares about in that whole press release is getting more money for their budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg54 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 And on top of it all they can't even get the hunting handbook out to hunters who may want one the day that licences go on sale....what a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greensider Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 the dec web site says they fixed all the bugs in the off season i guess they did not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason118 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So can we purchase DMP tags yet??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kam Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 So the online site kinda of works but you can only purchase a regular season tag right now. No other tag options are available.I was confused about that too. Seems you need to make two separate purchases. Once you purchase the regular tag, then you will go back and the other tags/privileges will be available to purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I was confused about that too. Seems you need to make two separate purchases. Once you purchase the regular tag, then you will go back and the other tags/privileges will be available to purchase. This is dumb. And there is no indication that this is even the process you have to go through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfdeputy2 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 don't need to make 2 purchases. you just need to click on the annual hunting items that will give you one choice the general hunting put it in your cart & click on annual hunting items again & will give you the rest of the choices add the ones you want to your cart then check out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSeenNorHeard Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 This state rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Went down this morning to the local clerk and got two 8M tags and a booklet. Out the door in 10 minutes tops. Just as it should be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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