upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I have my land that i hunt along with 2 neighboring properties that equal roughly 100 acres. My management plan is I kill a doe every other year and a buck every other year so i only kill one deer on this land every year. Is this a decent plan. An I over killing or under killing. Should I take more doe. I don't know how many deer are on the property lol. I have always done it this way so I have a decent number of deer. I fill my tags throughout different properties around the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skillet Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 (edited) I hunt 34 acres in 8N (Naples). I've killed 2-3 deer every season for years. Neighbors kill several every year, too. It's a vast area down there, & I've never noticed a shortage of deer from year to year. Do they give out a lot of dmp's where you hunt, or is it a preference point area? I have no idea about your hunting area, but I'm willing to bet you could kill more deer. Edited September 18, 2015 by Skillet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't know how many deer you have in your area, but 1 deer per year on 100 acres sounds kind of light to me.. My property is 107 acres and we're not overrun with deer... We usually get 4-6 different bucks and maybe 15-20 does on trailcam...Keep in mind we are not fenced and the deer move between our property and surrounding neighbors.. We generally kill 1-2 bucks and 2-4 does per season, and the population seems to stay about the same.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 285 acres,we take 10 doe a year and 8 buck on average, been that way since 1995., I really try to keep getting 10 doe a year and even recruit more hunters in muzzleloader to do so, keeps population and my woods regrowing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 This property is 6k that i described. What really gets me is the lack of bucks. Very few bucks are seen but I can see doe just about every time I go out. I finally saw a 4 point this year but passed because he was the only one I have seen in a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genesee_mohican Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It depends on the current population + the carrying capacity of your land and surrounding properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 figure out how many adult doe are roughly on your property. how many doe are you seeing on a routine basis? get to know the neighbors and share what is taken and seen (numbers and info I mean). is there young trees and browse growing in the woods? how about ag fields in the area? you can conservatively harvest adult doe per area based on habitat quality too in your limited situation. the more info you gather and the more you talk to your neighbors the better. https://www.qdma.com/articles/how-many-does-can-i-harvest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 1 deer from 100 acres. That's a dam expensive deer lol. Might be overthinking that one. I wouldn't be tagging small bucks but you can tag out in a well maintained 100 acres every year for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 1 deer from 100 acres. That's a dam expensive deer lol. Might be overthinking that one. I wouldn't be tagging small bucks but you can tag out in a well maintained 100 acres every year for sure. if it's 100 acres of open fields and mature bare timber maybe not. maybe the neighbors shoot lots of four legged varmints. better in the long run to learn to assess your own situation where you're hunting. properties change hands and hunting on the same land can change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Lol well I've never received more than one doe tag for 6k so pretty limited. And I didn't get the property for the soul purpose of hunting. There are corn fields right around the property and about 50 acres of corn all together. The property is hard wood soft wood mix with young and old growth. Ferns growing generally all around the property. Swamp land in a small section and 8 foot wide river on one side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Also I feel like I only ever see the same 6-8 deer. As last year there was a group of 5 does I always saw until I harvested one large doe from the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Also maybe my style of hunting affects my sightings. I do sit on watch but I love to still hunt. Or if I kick up a deer I like trailing it and stalking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 multiple doe groups will use the same bedding cover as they move within an overlapping home range. they just won't really use it at the same time obviously. your style might dictate your sightings. it is what it is though. no need to change it as long as you can otherwise get any idea of deer that are around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Does pretty much look like other does, so it is possible to be counting the same deer over and over. Especially since they like using the same trails over and over. So getting a reliable count can be kind of tricky in terms of using trail cams for population guestimates. Also, a change in ag crops, or natural food sources as the year goes on can make it seem like all the deer have disappeared, Also, too much attention to the cams can change movements and patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 This property is 6k that i described. What really gets me is the lack of bucks. Very few bucks are seen but I can see doe just about every time I go out. I finally saw a 4 point this year but passed because he was the only one I have seen in a few years and you hunt here why? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Because it is my property. If I want to just hunt and not drive that's where i go. But I don't hunt this property alot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyantler Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Because it is my property. If I want to just hunt and not drive that's where i go. But I don't hunt this property alot ahhh.. now it makes better sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstatehunter Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Yeah I just enjoy being in the woods so the deer is a bonus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckstopshere Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Upstate: Right, but you need a way to attract bucks. And I have found that the only way to do that with regularity is go off the property and find an active scrape, snip the overhanging branch and put it over the best scrape on your property. I assume you have a tree stand set up on the best funnel into this location. The sniped off overhanging branch will draw bucks, most at night and of course not shootable. But by establishing a pheromone center, bucks will come from far and wide as the rut progresses. The key is you have does and they will enhance the overhanging branch and bring the bucks in. You just need to be there between Halloween and Election Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 There should be more deer on that property, if you need bucks cut and make a thicket and stay out of it, still hunting you probably follow same path and see same deer, next question is if your not there who is 100 acres of unhunted property surrounded by corn should be loaded with deer if someone isn't hunting it.just.from any pressure from other properties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four Season Whitetail's Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Upstate: Right, but you need a way to attract bucks. And I have found that the only way to do that with regularity is go off the property and find an active scrape, snip the overhanging branch and put it over the best scrape on your property. I assume you have a tree stand set up on the best funnel into this location. The sniped off overhanging branch will draw bucks, most at night and of course not shootable. But by establishing a pheromone center, bucks will come from far and wide as the rut progresses. The key is you have does and they will enhance the overhanging branch and bring the bucks in. You just need to be there between Halloween and Election Day. Good advice if he has deer around him. Cant attract what is not there. We have about 900 acres here and no does get shot until late season. I like alot of does on the property and in doing so i have mature bucks chasing does across corn and bean fields in broad daylight. A Lot! Very rarely do we step in the woods without seeing deer. Keep the food, Keep the ladies and you will have great hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landtracdeerhunter Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 OP.; Your questions are very tough, if not impossible to answer. Heck, New York officials can't even answer them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ringwood Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 If oaks and trilliums are regenerating, its about right. If not, you are loosing your woods and will have negative deer health impacts. Read the land and it will tell you what you need to know (and I'd bet its not healthy with 1x/year). Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetEmGrow Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 This question would be impossible to answer without knowing what the neighbors are doing. And by neighbors, I would say the nearest 900 acres of neighbors. If you have some food plots and the neighbors don't then you may have a portion of deer on your land that is not representative of the population in the larger area. At the same time, if the neighbors don't care about QDM then it may be hard to tell. And if they resent QDM then they may notv tell you what they take. This is my situation. I just try to pass small bucks and take what I canveat. Unless you have at least 500 acres then I just don't know what you can do other than try to create a QDM co-op around you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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