Five Seasons Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 to each his own, but after I saw what the rage did to my first archery deer I've used nothing else since. Currently I prefer the chisel tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 The ferule on these hypodermics is very tough, I should it through some pork shoulders but failed to take any pictures. No blades broke either but 1 bent. Now I'm excited to get back out there but it's doe only for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR HUNTER Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 My issue with the rage (and probably most mechanicals), has been the delicate handling needed. I accidentally must have touched the point against something one morning while sitting in my stand in the dark. After the sun came up I noticed that one of the blades had slipped out of the collar. Barely noticeable if didn't take a closer look. I don't know if this would've affected deployment had I taken a shot with it, but lucky for me i saw absolutely zilch that morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 No doubt that rage broad heads produce massive wound channels, but I hate the fact that you need those small rubber bands to lock the blades in. NAP killzones are a much better head IMO. They click into place and create the exact same wound. I also feel that rage is not made as well as the NAP Killzone, but that is just my opinion I currently switched over to fixed broadheads only because you get more knock down power and will never fail to open. Hopefully this weekend i can send a pic of the damage a GrizzlyStik Massai broad head can do. Archery tackle with a broadhead does not kill through "knockdown power", it kills through cutting and blood loss. The only time I have knocked a deer of of its feet with a bow is when Ive spined them, and that was not intentional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 My issue with the rage (and probably most mechanicals), has been the delicate handling needed. I accidentally must have touched the point against something one morning while sitting in my stand in the dark. After the sun came up I noticed that one of the blades had slipped out of the collar. Barely noticeable if didn't take a closer look. I don't know if this would've affected deployment had I taken a shot with it, but lucky for me i saw absolutely zilch that morning. The Rages that I have (this years model) cant slip out of the collar if they are installed on the arrow correctly. No need for delicate handling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Out of a properly tuned bow, any quality broadhead will. Do you consider a fixed blade muzzy quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Do you consider a fixed blade muzzy quality? Not what I shoot but a muzzy is a great broadhead.. Edited October 28, 2015 by Buckmaster7600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Not what I shoot but a muzzy is a great broadhead.. So I would like to see someone that liked that comment to make a video showing your bow shooting a muzzy fixed broahead the same as a feild point. Thats the only way i'd believe it. My bow hits the shop every year and im sure it's well tuned and dam near brand new and it will not place a muzzy fixed near a Rage or feild point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) So I would like to see someone that liked that comment to make a video showing your bow shooting a muzzy fixed broahead the same as a feild point. Thats the only way i'd believe it. My bow hits the shop every year and im sure it's well tuned and dam near brand new and it will not place a muzzy fixed near a Rage or feild point. You need to educate yourself on bow tuning or find a new bow shop. Hang a piece of news paper shoot it at 10 feet and again at 20 feet and I guarantee it is not a clean tear. Edited October 29, 2015 by Buckmaster7600 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntOrBeHunted Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 You need to educate yourself on bow tuning or find a new bow shop. Hang a piece of news paper shoot it at 10 feet and again at 20 feet and I guarantee it is not a clean tear. Matter a fact I don't lol. I shoot a rage and a feild tip and they hit perfect everytime. Can't fix something that isn't broke. I have NEVER missed or not recovered a deer yet and have shot a fair amount. If it works so perfect make a 30 second video it will take a lot less time than going back and forth. Seeing is believing brotha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 I don't shoot muzzles however I can shoot montecs slick tricks G5 Tekans and rages in the same spot with my bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Matter a fact I don't lol. I shoot a rage and a feild tip and they hit perfect everytime. Can't fix something that isn't broke. I have NEVER missed or not recovered a deer yet and have shot a fair amount. If it works so perfect make a 30 second video it will take a lot less time than going back and forth. Seeing is believing brotha Have one to send me. I'll tape it.Never shot Muzzys before. Edited October 29, 2015 by Culvercreek hunt club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) Matter a fact I don't lol. I shoot a rage and a feild tip and they hit perfect everytime. Can't fix something that isn't broke. I have NEVER missed or not recovered a deer yet and have shot a fair amount. If it works so perfect make a 30 second video it will take a lot less time than going back and forth. Seeing is believing brotha One thing you and many others are missing with shooting bows that are out of tune is the fact that you are loosing a lot of KE when your arrow strikes a target and your nock is not directly behind the tip the arrow will whip "nock go to one side." May not seem like a big deal until you need it. Edited October 29, 2015 by Buckmaster7600 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 One thing you and many others are missing with shooting bows that are out of tune is the fact that you are loosing a lot of KE when your arrow strikes a target and your nock is not directly behind the tip the arrow will whip "nock go to one side." May not seem like a big deal until you need it.Absolutely. I shoot mechanicals because I like the large cutting surface, but I make sure they hit with field tips and Montecs so I know I'm tuned and flight is perfect, getting the most KE I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET EM GROW Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Love the rage.. My buddy shoots the original 2 blade... one year he had shot at a doe as he released she stepped and turned back at the same time quick... long story short... one of the blades from the rage sliced a good cash across her "cheek" left a very good blood trail and she was dead in 150 yards.. he wasnt aware of the shot placement until he got to her... whether its luck, or the broad head or both.. rage hasn't let any of us down yet i picked up the hypodermics this year. love them buried it into bone and the tip is still super sharp along with the blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielT Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 20150928_191455.jpg That's a rage entry wound....killed her instantly. ....arrow had deflected off a twig....I was 8 yards away Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk Pretty sure both blades opened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR HUNTER Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 The Rages that I have (this years model) cant slip out of the collar if they are installed on the arrow correctly. No need for delicate handling. Good to know. I just looked it up on their website and I see that they have improved the collars. I'm guessing I shouldn't have a problem size wise swapping out my old collars with the new ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 so, now I'm sitting here with a pack of Rage and a pack of Spitfire Crossbow Broadheads, both unopened...........which do I return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 so, now I'm sitting here with a pack of Rage and a pack of Spitfire Crossbow Broadheads, both unopened...........which do I return? the crossbow, and hunt like a man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 the crossbow, and hunt like a man. Oh no!!!! Think I have an old pack of microwave popcorn left…..WAIT 3-5 minutes!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 so, now I'm sitting here with a pack of Rage and a pack of Spitfire Crossbow Broadheads, both unopened...........which do I return? Both and buy slick tricks and a 30 pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hock3y24 Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 the crossbow, and hunt like a man. Fire away! I can't wait to put another hypo through a doe, although this deer will be donated to my father as my freezer is PACKED. I still have 20 lbs from last year to go with about 90 fresh pounds vacuum sealed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 the crossbow, and hunt like a man. I know, I know.....was actually expecting a response from you....it really was a big decision to get one and was not going to, but after it was bought for me as a gift I made the choice to give it a whirl..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 You can use the crossbow heads with your regular bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 (edited) You can use the crossbow heads with your regular bow. I'm set with Slick Tricks for that...have no intention of changing. The move to mechanical broadheads poses the dilemma. The crossbow will come out the two days before regular season if I don't tag one with my compound...so don't want to break the bank dicking around with different heads. Edited October 29, 2015 by jjb4900 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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