Muzzleloader suggestions

[Skillet]

Go traditional. You can order a Traditions Deerhunter 50cal percussion, for $324.

I love mine.

[turkeyfeathers]

Not to go off topic or steal the tread but if your not shooting blackhorn you are REALLY missing out. I consider one of the few "game changers" in this industry in the past 10 years.

explain ? 777 has killed quite a few deer for me. One shot , deer down. Dead is dead.

[Jeremy K]

explain ? 777 has killed quite a few deer for me. One shot , deer down. Dead is dead.

Say you go to the range to spend some time with the muzzleloader , how many shots can you go without pushing a brush or a patch before your accuracy will diminish ? The clean factor of BH209 compared to any other powder is hands down night and day different. 

[Buckmaster7600]

explain ? 777 has killed quite a few deer for me. One shot , deer down. Dead is dead.

I have used 777 and they are not compable my #1 complaint on 777's is the inconstancy between pellet to pellet I have seen as much as 10grains. If shooting 777 loose or pellets the stuff is dirty! 309 is the cleanest most consistent powder I have used and I think I've tried most if not all. If there is a downside to the 309 it is getting it lit with the proper primers and breech plugs that's not really a down side either.

[Skillet]

explain ? 777 has killed quite a few deer for me. One shot , deer down. Dead is dead.

I use 777 ffg. You do have to run a patch after a few shots, but so what, that's muzzleloading. It's consistent, & I don't have any trouble cleaning it up. No complaints about it here.

[papabear]

I bin using Goex  FFF-G for my 50 cal Hawkins for 30 years I shoot about 20 rounds from the gun before cleaning it or running a patch down the barrel  

[rotorooter23]

Here is a nice article frmo Randy Wakeman on Balckhorn 209 vs. Triple 7. I have switch to blackhorn from 777 and will not look back.

 

http://randywakeman.com/Blackhorn209AdvantagesvsT7%20pellets.htm

 

and a blackhorn article in general: http://randywakeman.com/bh209.htm

 

Edited November 5, 2015 by rotorooter23

[sbuff]

Wakeman is a joke that's a different story for another day, bh209 is expensive if you shoot a lot, but it sure is clean.

Second to Randy is Toby as far as that goes

Edited November 5, 2015 by sbuff

[SuperMag]

Does blackhorn come in pellets or is it only loose? Im curios because I've heard a lot of good things about it and would like to shoot it out of my remington instead of the pyrodex pellets I've been using. I would use loose but they don't recommend it in my ML. 

[sbuff]

loose only , is it the 700ML ?

[SuperMag]

loose only , is it the 700ML ?

700 Ultimate ML

[Jeremy K]

Here is a nice article frmo Randy Wakeman on Balckhorn 209 vs. Triple 7. I have switch to blackhorn from 777 and will not look back.

http://randywakeman.com/Blackhorn209AdvantagesvsT7%20pellets.htm

and a blackhorn article in general: http://randywakeman.com/bh209.htm

Randy Wakeman has lost all credibility after he was paid by manufacturer X to bad mouth manufacturer Y.

[Buckmaster7600]

Wakeman is a joke that's a different story for another day, bh209 is expensive if you shoot a lot, but it sure is clean.

Second to Randy is Toby as far as that goes

Time is money and I just opened my 4th pound of blackhorn this year and I bet I have spent less time cleaning than I did after shooting a box of 777.

[rotorooter23]

I've heard several things on randy. All I know is the blackhorn does as he says... Wasn't it about blowing up a savage mlii with smokeless powder

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[sbuff]

I think Cecil tested bh209 in an ultimate, I would have to check .

[sbuff]

And yes it was a issue with savage, don't think Henry Ball n him got along.I could be wrong

[SuperMag]

I think Cecil tested bh209 in an ultimate, I would have to check .

I would appreciate that..

[sbuff]

No answer calling Cecil Epp at precision rifle, he may be traveling or hunting.

Try reaching out to western powders to see if they recommend it, or even Remington

[turkeyfeathers]

Say you go to the range to spend some time with the muzzleloader , how many shots can you go without pushing a brush or a patch before your accuracy will diminish ? The clean factor of BH209 compared to any other powder is hands down night and day different. 

Gotcha. Gun is dialed in so I only shoot once in the field. Take gun home and clean it and hopefully repeat.

[SuperMag]

No answer calling Cecil Epp at precision rifle, he may be traveling or hunting.

Try reaching out to western powders to see if they recommend it, or even Remington

Will do, thanks for trying.

[Fletch]

^{I am kinda partial to my TC Triumph. It is a tack driver and smooth to shoot.}

 

^{http://www.tcarms.com/firearms/muzzleloaders/triumph}

 

 

 

[moog5050]

I use the 209 in my encore pro hunter.  Love the 209 and the encore.

[turkeyfeathers]

Truly don't think there's such a thing as a crappy ML. Wife bought me a Winchester Apex Magnum years ago. I'd guess she didn't spend more than $300. It shoots well and has killed quite a few deer. Zero missed and zero not retrieved Put a nice Bushnell Elite Firefly 3x9 on it. Pretty sure it'll be along for the ride opening day of gun season.

[Trigger518]

I bought a traditions buckstalker over the summer it seems like a good gun so far I paid around 350 with the scope

[nyantler]

I have the Hawkins in  45 and 50 cal. I enjoy shooting this to me its what Muzzleloading is all about

There are only a few of us that think of the traditional stuff when the word "muzzleloader" is mentioned... good that some still keep that tradition alive... patch and round ball all the way! An inexpensive way to get started vs. the inline