jjb4900 Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 Not talking 20 bucks tho let's do the math if a 3 pack is 30 bucks a head is 10 bucks...I'm looking at 6 for 20 that's just over 3 a head...another thing is I shoot deer yotes coon or fox from the stand and if bored enough I'll shoot a squirrel. That gets expensive Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Edit...just to point out I will not use them if I am not 100 percent sure in performance of the head. you'll never be %100 sure until it's to late in my opinion.....buy the cheap ones for the plinking and the real ones for the deer. Like I also said, you'll probably never have any issue shooting anything with them as long as you make sure the blades are sharpened. I also think 8 out of 10 broadhead failures are operator error and everyone needs to blame something so that's where it usually falls...heck, with the size of some mechancals today, even if they don't open, if you put them where they belong it should result in a dead deer...not that it's good, but you get the point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 17, 2016 Author Share Posted July 17, 2016 you'll never be %100 sure until it's to late in my opinion.....buy the cheap ones for the plinking and the real ones for the deer. Like I also said, you'll probably never have any issue shooting anything with them as long as you make sure the blades are sharpened. I also think 8 out of 10 broadhead failures are operator error and everyone needs to blame something so that's where it usually falls...heck, with the size of some mechancals today, even if they don't open, if you put them where they belong it should result in a dead deer...not that it's good, but you get the point.Very true a steel rod thru the right spot is a dead deer...I still may end up staying with muzzy but for the price can't go wrong and if I do end up using them then for the price u can see some more dead squirrels in my futureSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefbkt Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 2 of my buddies bought the rage knockoffs.. price is great for the quantity purchased.. they are the exact same thing just a little lower in the steel quality dept.. resulting in broken blades more often and the ferrule being not as strong. All deer shot with these have been recovered due to well placed shots but... imo ill spend the extra for the actual rage heads and they lost longer due to strength especially when trying to ethically harvest an animal quick as possible.. in my free time I'm building prints to make my own rage hypodermic broadheads and machine them myself.. Need CAD assistance or you have that covered? I'd be interested in seeing them when finished. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 (edited) Always used fixed cut on contact, last year bought some Rage . Shot one buck he died, to small of a sample size for me to see if I'll stick with them. Your bow should shoot fieldpoints and broadheads the same anyway, I always viewed mechanicals as a solution in search of a problem ,yep the deer died same as all the ones I shot with fixed ...... On the cost ,I did not see a big deal, bought 3 heads should last me 3 years . On the subject of "knock offs" im not a fan of "knock offs," " just like," " almost as good as " type products . I'll stick with the orignals thank you, the guys who did all the R&D , the marketing incurred all the costs , made something so successful it caught the eye of the thieves who make knock,offs. Want to save money buy some fixed Mangus or Zwickey's for $8 a pop and just resharpen it after each kill . Edited July 17, 2016 by Larry302 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET EM GROW Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Need CAD assistance or you have that covered? I'd be interested in seeing them when finished.I have it all at work lol even Mastercam to program it thank you though!Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LET EM GROW Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 It will be some time before the finished product comes around, I'm swamped at work Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qthehunter Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Lol how does saving money have anything to do with ethics? If the broadhead looks like a rage flies like a rage cuts like a rage and deploys like a rage then I'm 100 percent sure it will kill like a rage...I still have testing to do on them but from reviews and AT guys who have used them I expect nothing less than a rage other than having to sharpen them witch I always check on my heads anyway. Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Listen buddy, do whatever you want. I'm just giving you my opinion. If you want to be a cheapo and buy knock off broad heads to save a buck that's your prerogative. They may work fine, who knows. I personally won't invest in a non-brand name broad head from ebay. That's just my feelings and I am not telling anyone how to feel here. Not sure why you cannot comprehend how saving money by investing in a no name ebay broad head can effect ethically killing a living animal. Most items are cheap for a reason. I wish you luck. Let's keep this moving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Lol Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Id give them a try if they offer 125 grain heads. I like my Rage 125s with the shock collars so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Id give them a try if they offer 125 grain heads. I like my Rage 125s with the shock collars so far.They do...just gotta look for 20 bucks and the reviews they get IMO if you shoot rages and don't bother even giving them a shot your either made of money or something else...alot of guys on AT are using them and have had no issues except needing to sharpen blades...seems like a good deal to me.Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I searched for 125 grain ones and couldnt find them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Damn I thought I saw them...guess not Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4017041 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share Posted July 24, 2016 http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4017041That's one of the threads that made me want to try them for the cost can't go wrong...there's another thread over there that's 84 pages long about them too Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 Yup that's why I got them and all the guys at work are shooting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Blades are sharp will just touch up but I would use as is now slice paper fine....quality seems good look and feel like rages Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATbuckhunter Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Blades are sharp will just touch up but I would use as is now slice paper fine....quality seems good look and feel like rages Sent from my SM-N920V using TapatalkLet us know how they fly as well Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 They fly true. At least the bunch I got do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Let us know how they fly as well Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAbsolutly hopefully this weekend tuning bow little better for the new arrows then will shoot them.Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grampy Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Will they work on a crossbow? This thread has got me thinking! Never knew about the knockoffs until reading about them here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Will they work on a crossbow? This thread has got me thinking! Never knew about the knockoffs until reading about them here.I always used regular heads in my xbowSent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Yes they should work with most crossbows. Could always put a band around it for safe measure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Yes they should work with most crossbows. Could always put a band around it for safe measure.Im thinking about doing thay anyway have you done it?Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billdogge Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Only with my faster crossbows. The shock collars if put on correctly are pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneam2006 Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Only with my faster crossbows. The shock collars if put on correctly are pretty good.I've never played with the collars much as I'm new to mechs any tips?Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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