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I’m hesitant to rattle (grunt, bleat etc)  at the best of times—afraid that my novice attempts are way more likely saying “idiot hunter over here” instead of “hot all estrus doe action”.

how do you guys feel about it? Are you using your rattling antlers? Is it working? Is it going to work but not until next week? Any suggestions and advice welcome

I am located in 4Y—Columbia county—eastern NY 1 hour below Albany. Seeing lots of does and a couple of spikers. Except after I rattle. Then I see nuthin. 

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I tried rattling, using a rattle bag last Saturday,on opening day of NZ rifle season.  I had located some deer down in a swamp, the week before, during ML season.  I got set up downwind of that swamp Saturday morning.  I rattled about a half hour after sunrise.  I tried it again a half hour later.  After about 10 minutes, I noted a dark shape coming up out of the swamp, in my direction.  It looked too tall for a deer.  At first, I thought it might have been a bear standing up.    As it got a little closer, I noticed "it" was wearing a bright chartruse-colored hat.   My own blaze orange hat was hanging above my head on a branch.  I suppose it blended in with the bright colored leaves and the other hunter did not see it.  It was only when I whistled, after he had closed the distance to about 50 yards, that I got his attention.   I will say that he did a very good job keeping silent while stalking through the crunchy leaves, because I never heard a sound.  He never would have gotten that close to a deer however, as he was walking directly downwind.   When he heard the whistle, he waved,  turned and disappeared back into the swamp.     

It turned out to be a neighbor, from down on the far end of the lake.  Later that afternoon, he stopped by my father in law's place and we got quite a laugh out of the episode.   It was too hot for any natural deer movement anyhow, and we were not overly concerned about the loss of any good hunting opportunities.   Even though no deer was involved, that will be an opening day morning that we will not soon forget.   The lesson here is that when you rattle, don't be surprised if you fool more than deer.   It would be a very good idea to wear some blaze orange if you do it during gun season.  I don't like doing it during archery season (although it can be very effective then) because the bucks are always very alert when they respond.  They are actively looking to get attacked by another buck.   Shooting at an alert deer with a sub-sonic weapon is a recipe for "string-jump", and a poorly hit deer. 

I have tried the rattle bag a few other times, but it has never brought in a deer.  It is much easier to carry than my set of "real" antlers.  I have used those to rattle in a few bucks over the years.  4 or 5 responded during archery season, the last of which I struck in the shoulder blade due to the "string-jump" issue mentioned earlier.  That was the last time I tried it with a bow.  The last buck that responded was a giant that I may have called in from the other side of the road, during SZ late ML season, about 7 years ago.   I watched that pair of deer cross the road and run across a big open field towards me, less than a minute after I stopped rattling.  A doe was in front and got into range, but the trailing buck veered off, taking a short cut to catch her, and did not offer a shot. 

     

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Thanks for the great reply! What little woods craft I have has been learned by trial and error (mostly the latter) or from books. I have an ‘adult onset’ version of the hunting bug, and have only been really serious about bowhunting for the past few years. So i am trying to figure out what actually works around here.


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I never really had any luck with it, but I'm sure it works some of the time.  Every trick has its time and place.  

However... when I was a teenager I was building a permanent stand on the edge of a bedding area.  It was between Vermont's bow and rifle seasons, and I was mostly done.  I was starting nails in 2x4s for steps on the soft ground, and I stacked them up.  As I whacked the nails, the 2x4s were bouncing and smacking together.  Must have sounded like a fight.  A fair sized 5 point came charging out of the cedars and circled me, then stopped at 10 yards.  I thought I was going to have to throw the hammer at him! 

Of course, the only buck I ever saw from that stand was a button buck...

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There are a lot of people, a lot more experienced than me on this forum so take this for what it is worth. What my experience has taught me is that calling doesn't hurt and may help. I have played with the doe bleat can, fawn call, buck grunt etc, numerous times while I have  had deer in site. I have had deer look my way numerous times and I have had them completely ignore me. What I have never had them do is spook and run off.  Rattling, I haven't figured out yet but what I think I may have figured out is that it also doesn't hurt. I bought a rattle bag a couple of years ago and like you it seemed crazy to me to make all that noise in the woods after trying to be so quiet. But bordem led me to trying it a few times. 90% of the time nothing came from it but a few times I have had small bucks come in 5-10 minutes after. Now this could also be coincidence but if it is, then the rattling didn't hurt and maybe it helped. Just this past Sunday I sat and it got to be 9:30 maybe 10am and I hadn't seen a deer. I decided to rattle and beat the bag for probably a solid minute.  Maybe 10 minutes later I catch movement at my 2 o'clock probably 75 yds away. Get my bino's up and it is a buck moving through the woods. Just catching glimpses of him here and there where I could see far enough to see him I watched him for at least 5 minutes. Tried grunting, nothing, tried the can nothing. I thought about rattling again but I didn't until I couldn't see him for at least 20 minutes.  Would I have seen that buck if I hadn't rattled before hand? Who knows.....if I had hit the bag maybe he would have ran right over to me....I don't know. The only thing I know for sure is that rattling didn't hurt....give it a shot...give it all a shot....who knows what might happen. Maybe you will learn something you can share with all of us!

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21 hours ago, ApexerER said:

There are a lot of people, a lot more experienced than me on this forum so take this for what it is worth. What my experience has taught me is that calling doesn't hurt and may help. I have played with the doe bleat can, fawn call, buck grunt etc, numerous times while I have  had deer in site. I have had deer look my way numerous times and I have had them completely ignore me. What I have never had them do is spook and run off.  Rattling, I haven't figured out yet but what I think I may have figured out is that it also doesn't hurt. I bought a rattle bag a couple of years ago and like you it seemed crazy to me to make all that noise in the woods after trying to be so quiet. But bordem led me to trying it a few times. 90% of the time nothing came from it but a few times I have had small bucks come in 5-10 minutes after. Now this could also be coincidence but if it is, then the rattling didn't hurt and maybe it helped. Just this past Sunday I sat and it got to be 9:30 maybe 10am and I hadn't seen a deer. I decided to rattle and beat the bag for probably a solid minute.  Maybe 10 minutes later I catch movement at my 2 o'clock probably 75 yds away. Get my bino's up and it is a buck moving through the woods. Just catching glimpses of him here and there where I could see far enough to see him I watched him for at least 5 minutes. Tried grunting, nothing, tried the can nothing. I thought about rattling again but I didn't until I couldn't see him for at least 20 minutes.  Would I have seen that buck if I hadn't rattled before hand? Who knows.....if I had hit the bag maybe he would have ran right over to me....I don't know. The only thing I know for sure is that rattling didn't hurt....give it a shot...give it all a shot....who knows what might happen. Maybe you will learn something you can share with all of us!

I rattle bucks in all the time, if you rattle at the wrong time it can hurt a lot. I've seen bucks run away after rattling. That's ok though it's made me better at it. You saw a buck 75 yards out, he was looking for were it was coming from. Next time just do a light rattle to him when you see them walking like that, but NEVER do it while they are looking at you. It can take an hour for a buck to get to you after hearing the rattling. I rattled one in the other day and it took him 35 minutes to get to me and he wasn't looking to fight, he was looking for the hot doe, he was sniffing the air non-stop. Most bucks won't run right to you, although I've had that happen. So next time you can see one and they aren't looking towards you just give them a light rattle and see what happens. I'm no expert by any means but you will learn something every time you see one after rattling.  

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