left field Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said: I agree with you on the classic positions. But the today's modern liberals absolutely no longer support limited government or capitalism. They regularly denounce capitalism in favor of socialism. And they are indeed for individual rights as long as it's not 2A stuff. Throw out the bat-shit crazy people on both sides and I think what we're left with are a lot of people in the middle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, left field said: Throw out the bat-shit crazy people on both sides and I think what we're left with are a lot of people in the middle. sorry but unless normal type democrat's stop playing along with the crazy lefts ideas people like aoc things will only get worse . its not the crazy right that is calling for the down fall of civilization and all institutions as we know it, it is the far left and the media that plays along with their craziness ideas . Edited September 23, 2020 by phantom 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Do you think that Obama will be pissed that he only got to seat 2 supreme court justices in 8 years after Trump seats 3 in 4 ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, wolc123 said: Do you think that Obama will be pissed that he only got to seat 2 supreme court justices in 8 years after Trump seats 3 in 4 ? No, I doubt it. Obama isn’t petty and small like Trump. His concern is likely centered on the potential erosion of women’s reproductive rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: No, I doubt it. Obama isn’t petty and small like Trump. His concern is likely centered on the potential erosion of women’s reproductive rights. https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/hunter-biden-received-3-5m-from-russian-billionaire-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 No, I doubt it. Obama isn’t petty and small like Trump. His concern is likely centered on the potential erosion of women’s reproductive rights. He should have been more concerned with solving some race issues with his 8 years as the first AA president. Oh wait...there were no race issue until Trump. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, crappyice said: He should have been more concerned with solving some race issues with his 8 years as the first AA president. Oh wait...there were no race issue until Trump. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Denying issues doesn’t make them not real. Edited September 24, 2020 by Versatile_Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 My guess is that there are a few more, but I'm not sure I'm that liberal unless believing that Trump is a lying stupid POS and dangerous to the country makes me a liberal. I know it's hard to understand, but one can be pro America and anti Trump. Agreed, I am not even close to a liberal. Just a student of history and I know hitler when I see him. It’s sad that so many are so blind Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 BUT I can't reconcile being pro America and Pro-Liberal. Then you have no clue what it means to be American Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, Chef said: Agreed, I am not even close to a liberal. Just a student of history and I know hitler when I see him. It’s sad that so many are so blind Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-for-brokering-israel-uae-deal/ yep hitler would defiantly do that o and btw his grandkids are Jewish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-for-brokering-israel-uae-deal/ yep hitler would defiantly do that o and btw his grandkids are Jewish It’s not about the Jewish part of the hitler it’s about the power grab and control Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef said: It’s not about the Jewish part of the hitler it’s about the power grab and control Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk o because democrat's don't want power and control lol they threaten to change the rules just to get more control it is not trump saying that stuff 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9jNYstarkOH Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, Chef said: It’s not about the Jewish part of the hitler it’s about the power grab and control Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk But why bring together Middle East countries if he was like hitler would he not try and divide countries to make it easier to concur? I do believe we Americans are more divided than ever but the never trumpers that where going to leave the country and never did and the so call news (which in all honesty we have none as they are all bias opinion pieces) started these attacks before trump was inaugurated. Is it trumps “power grab” or the political systems loss of power that has caused the media to push the citizens to be so divided. I never cared about politics before trump was elected as I always assumed the system was rigged for the predetermined outcome. But now with the mail in ballot push, Nancy Pelosi throwing around impeachment nonchalantly and Bloomberg’s election interference though actblue paying fines to buy votes I am back to where I had started. As I have stated that I do not think trump is the best candidate that the Republican Party could have came up with but Biden is no knight in shining armor and the only thing that happens is the power shifts back to the career politicians just the way it has for decades. 47 years in to his political career and what has he done but fill his and his family pockets? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 This can’t be real can it?!? And if it is, thank you !!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 i think they know they are going to loose and made him the sacrificial lamb my guess . they just want to keep congress blue I felt that way pre covid, that they wouldn't waste a good candidate, but now I'm worriedSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real_TCIII Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Agreed, I am not even close to a liberal. Just a student of history and I know hitler when I see him. It’s sad that so many are so blind Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkIt's beyond the pale to compare anyone to hitler. Anyone at all. You should stop.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: It's beyond the pale to compare anyone to hitler. Anyone at all. You should stop. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro If you can’t see the parallels you’re a moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 If you can’t see the parallels you’re a moron Thank you for defending my point. I will say TCIII have met and he is far from a Moron. It is ok for people to have a difference in opinion. And honestly I should clarify what I said. Trump is not Hitler. His rise to power and a future attempt at absolute power certainly mirrors the 1930’s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versatile_Hunter Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chef said: Thank you for defending my point. I will say TCIII have met and he is far from a Moron. It is ok for people to have a difference in opinion. And honestly I should clarify what I said. Trump is not Hitler. His rise to power and a future attempt at absolute power certainly mirrors the 1930’s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s important to be clear eyed about what’s happening. Trump’s disregard for the rule of law and refusal to follow longstanding norms that have kept our democracy healthy needs to be stated. Like hitler, Trump aims to divide by appealing to the worst aspects of human nature, for political gain. Watching the Republican leadership leave or fall in line has been even more startling. The parallels are evident and you shouldn’t shy away from saying so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said: If you can’t see the parallels you’re a moron hitler killed over 6 million jews and started ww2 . so how is trump anything like that ? Where do you get your info from BLM or AOC . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 59 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said: I felt that way pre covid, that they wouldn't waste a good candidate, but now I'm worried Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro yea me to the democrats will cheat . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Versatile_Hunter said: If you can’t see the parallels you’re a moron Please refrain from personal attacks or insults. Not allowed on this forum. Edited September 25, 2020 by Steuben Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolc123 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said: Please refrain from personal attacks or insults. Not allowed on this forum. Our 4 liberal downstaters have a little bit different understanding of that it seems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 RIP Justice Ginsburg .... now remember she was put into place by an Impeached Democratic President ( the Nations first Sexual Predator ) ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Edited September 25, 2020 by phantom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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