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I sure try to see what is the issue in PA now ? I have been told there is some issue's that sure seem it is better not to do all this type of drilling. Clean water may be needed more than, cold hard cash they are now getting.

Well I'm out.... I don't know if they were gobblers... At least one was a hen. As it called back to me before they flew across the river. They landed far to the left I literally saw them fly in and they curved off to the left. I'm assume they walked down the farm road I walked in on. No noise from them and shortly later the fox/yote appeared. (Brown without a bushy tail. I'm assuming yote) I watched the vote for a bit and crept out of my thicket. No sign of the birds... I threw one loud call... Waited 10 minutes. No response and packed up. Next sit I'm going to move back a field closer than I was... Omw out I saw poop, scratches. Also its the direction the birds went... And last weekend there was feathers on that section of the trail. Also the grass is shorter. Bonus. Omw out I about crapped my pants when a very long and large animal bounded along the tree line near the river. Then halfway up a tree and stuck its teddy bear face out the side to watch me..... I was so struck by seeing my first fisher in the wild I opened every pocket but the one with my camera.. By the time I had it out he was gone... He was big... Tail seemed almost as bushy as his body. And just as long as his body. I'd say total length near 4 foot ish. Who knew a fisher near the barge canal. What a great morning.... Saw my first legit birds. Called them in to boot. Had a vote show for an hour then the fisher...

Aging based on Physical Attributes Spur lengths tend to be the most reliable indicator of age. Spurs are used for fighting and defense, and combined with attitude of the bird are a significant factor in dominance over other birds. A general guide to spur length verses age is shown in (Table 3.) In both tables- 3 & 4, regard this as a generic rule of thumb with the conclusions subject to debate between biologists, and especially turkey hunters. As birds get older it is more difficult to estimate age, as measurements overlap, and data is more difficult to obtain. As with beard length and body weights, typical measurements will vary depending on subspecies, geographic region, soil types, and weather conditions. Spur Length Range Typical Spur Length Estimated Age 0.0000” - 0.5000” 0.2500” 1 Year (Jake) 0.6250” - 0.8750” 0.7500” 2 Years 0.8750” - 1.1250” 1.0000” 3 Years 1.0000” - 1.3750” 1.2500” 4 Years 1.2500” - 1.6250” 1.5000” 5 Years > 1.6250” > 1.6250” Greater > 5 Years Table 3: Spur length verses age Beards grow an average of four inches a year, and in the end are affected by growth versus wear rates. Beards break off quite often, lose or break the longer strands, and are a much less reliable indicator of age. Beards are also prone to breakage in colder climate regions where the beards can become wet, and freeze into clumps of ice. As beards get longer, they eventually contact the ground or stepped on. It is thought to be the major source of wear & breakage. Beard length may also be affected by lack of melanin (dark color pigment) or infestation by mites. A general guide to beard length verses age is shown in (Table 4.) Beard Length Range Typical Beard Length Estimated Age 0.0000” - 5.0000” 4.0000” 1 Year (Jake) 6.0000” - 9.5000” 9.0000” 2 Years 9.0000” - 11.0000” 10.0000” 3 Years > 11.0000” > 11.0000” Greater > 4 Years Table 4: Beard length verses age Body weight is considered an unreliable age indicator for a variety of reasons. In general terms, jakes will weigh less than 14lbs-15lbs, and two-year-old gobblers will weigh in between 17lbs-20lbs. After two years of age, the weights can vary greatly. Old dominate gobblers are routinely reported that are tagged with live weights under 17lbs. This is especially common with late season gobblers after a long season of fighting, and breeding. Many old gobblers are found with little to no sponge fat left in the chest cavity. The peak weights have much more to do with food availability, quality of the food sources, and breeding activity of the gobbler, rather than the age of the bird. Many times two & three-year-old toms weigh more than a nasty old long hooked spurred gobbler that is doing the majority of breeding. from: Chapter- NWTF Wild Turkey Record System, "Empire State Limbhangers" a book schedule for 2016 release © 2015 Joyner Outdoor Media

My motives are a little more selfish than trying to save a planet....lol. I only want to save my little part of it. At my age, it may not be all that important, but for those that have a bunch of years left, it may be a bit disconcerting to find out 20 years down the road that people sold off the future years of their longevity and property values for some short term prosperity. I have no problem with extended discussion. And I have no sympathy for demonizing those that offer a view of patience and thorough forethought. I tend to be a bit more cautious on controversial issues, and have no real desire to muck around in things simply for some quick cash only to find out later that maybe we were a bit premature and overzealous in our promotion and defense of these activities. Frankly, I doubt there is anyone on this forum that is capable of giving a credible argument on this issue although many try to give the impression that they have some "special" knowledge. It seems to me that it is not an ideological issue (not everything is). In fact it is a scientific issue that should be sorted out by the scientists. I also believe that the financial arguments are incidental and should not be used to force dumb decisions that may not have such nice consequences. Oh, and by the way, if you really have to get into the ideology of all of the suffering masses of bad economic situations in NYS, keep in mind that much of the liberal, socialistic, gains made in this state, followed that same tear-jerking line of argument. Such emotional heart-rending arguments seldom have good logical outcomes.

i have said it for years, a hunter is the only person dumb enough to watch every move on a property for the owner. Being that hunters set cams, post and constantly check for movement and trespassers, they are pretty much a security system. most home owners love it and if you seem trustworthy they are willing to let you hunt that is why meeting in person is better.

I remember a quote from years ago if goes something like this. "I capitalist will sell you the rope to hang him with" Funny where money is concerned there is also denial of the facts, because its the money they want and no fact to the contraty will change their minds. Money justifies all !!!!!!

http://www.turkeyandturkeyhunting.com/turkey-scratchings/brian-lovett-blog/turkeys-365-all-about-turkey-beards When trying to determine whether a is a two year old or 3+ look at the tips of the beard under a light source... The beard on the left has orange/amber coloration on the tips = 2 year old. The beard on the right has no orange tint at all because his beard has had an extra year to grow and the intitial "jake tip" portion of his beard has been worn off = 3 years or older

Being a guitar player for more than 45 years, BB has been an inspiration to me. His blues style is second to none. His gracious demeanor on and off the stage should be an example,more of these newer artists should follow. Rest in peace BB. You will be missed.

It really does hurt to lose a hunting spot you have had access to since you were a kid. We had 350 acres next to the farm I was raised on,that we had exclusive hunting permission for years and years. After the landowner died,his kids didn't want it and sold it to the state to expand a state park. It is now open to public hunting. And that brought a slew of problems for the 400+ acres we still have. We now let the hunters push the deer from the public land to us and have been successful using them to our advantage. Nothing stays the same and you change and adapt with the changes you have no control of. That being said,being that you have lived there for many years,there is a lot you can offer the new land owners. As said above,you are there to keep a close watch on their land when they are away. You can offer help with land improvement like food plots,brush clearing,best stand placement and just being the best neighbor you can be. I wish you the best of luck with the new owners,hope it all works out for you. Sometimes change works out ok.

The two birds were gobblers? I assume they were gobbling? You're in a blind? That field looks kind of tall, no? Was it a hen and a gobbler? If so I'd stay until the last dog was hung...............(if I didn't shoot myself first out of boredom) Talk to me Goose......................................

Thats why I would love to see the actual numbers.

You need to do a little more research on this.;-) Government regulation is how non-competitive businesses are able to stay in the market. Big Pharma, Big Agriculture, Big Oil, Big Tobacco, Big Auto... They're not where they are because of their work-product, but because they've helped to configure a governmental system that eliminates the competition. It's no longer possible to be Big anything without first making Big Government happy. As far as any safety concerns: Every single day people die in spite of government regulation and oversight of the things we do as humans. Looking to the government for protection is little more than an abdication of personal care.

Oh that wasn't a dig, don't take it the wrong way. I can only imagine how you bust your hump............ I know plenty of people that would love a dozen or so workers that could keep up with you!

The war(s) against perceived threats gets traction in the media because it plays on the hearts and minds of the citizens, while the actual threat to the well-being of this country is completely ignored. Living under the rule of a 'big government' system is readily available in every other country on the face of this planet and they're all more than happy to stamp an entry visa for you. Things are supposed to be different here in the US, it's a basic principle on which the country was founded. Whether we actually get it right or not is still up in the air, but we were the only ones who ever gave free-market capitalism a shot, and it revolutionized the way that every person on this planet lives today. That 'shot' at capitalism began it's decline in the late 1930's with the rise of Progressivism. Free-market capitalism does not support big government, therefore free-market capitalism is spun as a bad thing by big government, and people believe it.

Sarcasm...

Knock on doors instead of writing a letter.The "in person" contact is always better.I have a 25% success rate from what I have asked permision on.Once you get permission ask about any help you can do.I have fixed farm equiptment,cut dead trees and branches from field edges,posted property for the landowners and I am getting ready to make a cab for a guys skidsteer I just got permission to be on.Its frustrating but so so worth it when you hit a good property

Yet the DEC is posing with these. LMAO Guess they are exempt. http://www.syracuse.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2015/05/all-white_sturgeon_netted_by_dec_in_black_river_outdoors_oddities.html#incart_related_stories

Actually, the best place for turbines if off-shore. The wind is more steady and the supply is more closely timed to the demand.

Short hunt before work this morning. No turkey talk or sightings yet but had this curious doe practically walk into my lap. About another hour and have to head in to get ready for work.

There are many police officers who take the job simply because that is a job that they can make a decent living off of but there are also those who take the job because they want to make a positive difference in society. There isn't a single one of them who don't understand that they may not make it home when ever they put on the badge and walk out the door. But it does hit me a little more when a police officer dies in the line of duty than when a life long petty criminal does. Mainly, one of them died while trying to improve my quality of life while the other died while trying to ruin my quality of life. The fact that they know this is the inherent danger that comes with their job makes it more heroic. Some of you may look at a police officer who dies in the line of duty and say it was simply another guy or gal trying to make a living like any one else. Or you can look at a police officer who dies in the line of duty and think this was someone who really wanted to make a difference and was willing to die for it. For me to be indifferent to his willingness to put his life in danger is similar to if someone jumped in front of a me and took a bullet for me to save my life and for me to shrug and say, "his dumb a## should have known he would of died saving me."

Racial profiling isn't a racist thing, no matter what the left wants you to believe. It's a valuable tool for survival.