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Doewacker has more experience with pointers.....
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Doewacker, I'm glad you jumped in here. He also has lots of experience with dogs also and has seen my dogs work in the field and trained with me. It's all about consistent reputation and exposure positively for the dog. They are pack animals and always want to make the pack leader happy. My dogs are so well socialized they have been at public firework displays and fallen asleep with all that noise. They sleep in my dog trailer at hunt tests and make no noise or fuss. It starts at a very young age and is kept up until they retire. I'm not sure where you live but a professional trainer may solve a lot of your issues. Training dogs is the easy part it the other end of the leash that makes the difficult times. I had a year old chocolate lab that people though was vicious and were going to have her put down as she kept biting people in her house. I took her for three weeks and learned they allowed her as a puppy to play and bite them as she played. Well she took that into adult hood and knew no better. She was easily trained that biting was not in her best interest and I introduced different methods to play and entertain her that were not injurious to her owners. She actually was a very soft temperament and simply was allowed the negative behavior. Slow and steady trains the dog......
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https://www.mastersvoice-dog.com/ Theses really work and are well worth the money to have a well socialized gun dog. I have heard them myself so many times it gets obnoxious but dogs respond well and it simply works great. For storms I have a cheap thunderstorm CD from the local Walmart...
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That's good she ignores storms, start small be playing and distracting her while shooting a good distance from her by another, When she continues playing without being distracted by the shooting then they can move closer. This will take days, never pick her up or reward any negative behaviors. Always praise her in a high pitched voice and be excited about your praise. She will respond and concentrate her behavior (unknowingly) of playing to being rewarded and ignoring the shots. I can't stress enough to go slow and only at her pace, watch her body language, she should be easy to read. Like I said it far easier to socialize a younger dog than condition an older dog. I've seen pro trainers at hunt tests and there dogs are not condition well and they don't succeed well in testing. My older dogs are pretty immune to their surroundings and only concentrate on me and as their pack leader want to please me..They are basic pack animals in nature and always want to please their leader...They know I give them their commands even before I open their trailer gate and allow then to exit. Best of luck with her and I am sure going back to the basics will help her...
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It all takes time, more so to "fix" an issue with a dog than train from the beginning to not have an issues. I take great time with puppies and I socialize them to everything from gun shots, boats, vehicles, vet visits and anything I do or they may be a part of they participate as puppies. My vets office know I show up there with my puppies and we just sit for an hour or better at peek time watching all the other cats and dogs come and go and it becomes fun for my dogs and they have no stress when they have a visit there. Same principal with gun noise, start small and at low levels while they play and soon enough they ignore the noise or like my master dog they actually get hyped when I raise a gun and shoot. They cue off the direction I aim and the noise alerts them to "mark" a waterfowl or retrieving decoy by the splash down. Always go slow and end on a positive note. I've had days where a dog will have a really bad training session and do some small task they get rewarded for (sit & stay) and that continues there bond with you as a trainer and don't show frustration as most dogs read us very well...
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I have several hunting labs, and started puppies for others and have AKC master hunt titles for my dogs. It is easier to train loud noise tolerance for puppies than train away gun-shyness in adult dogs. I start training at 7 weeks old and subject them to CD recordings of gun fire and thunderstorms. The tapes play at low volume and increasingly over time display louder noise levels and are done in progression of how the dog tolerates the noise. If they react go back a level and if they show no response move ahead a level. Never subject a gun shy dog to loud noise or tie them up and shoot near them. Just like never throw them into the water to swim. They require socialization and slow introductions into theses training aspects. The adult dog should be subjected to gun fire at great distances and SLOWLY move to the dog when he shows no sign of intimidation. Start small and shoot a pellet or pop gun, then a 22 with blanks and when he shows no response then and only then larger calibers. This will be a process of length, never skip ahead and always make training fun for your dog. Always end any training session on a positive note even if that means a short sit and stay drill for the day. If you allow the training at your dog's pace he should be able to be conditioned from this. Any question feel free to PM me....
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Microsoft BS phone calls. Do you get them ?
Salmon_Run replied to turkeyfeathers's topic in General Chit Chat
I too delay them as long as possible and keep them on the line. My teens loved it when I had the solar energy guy answering question that he had no idea what he was talking about and he finally just said "I can't help you, sorry" and he hung up. -
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NYC pipe bomb
Salmon_Run replied to NYBowhunter's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
We, as a society, keep teaching tolerance and yet we are the one's now being targeted by the radical groups. Safe spaces, warm hugs and blind tolerance isn't working. -
Well, now that I can marginally face society again after a big woods season ending how was everyone's season? I didn't harvest a buck but the season was a great success. I saw lots of deer, deer sign and even jumped a bear at the end. I consider the season a success because I was much healthier this year, able to walk and spent lots of time away and at camp. My family joined me for Thanksgiving week and the weather was pretty normal. I hope to hear of your success here and pictures of those big body Northern deer... Happy holidays.....
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NYC pipe bomb
Salmon_Run replied to NYBowhunter's topic in Gun and Hunting Laws and Politics Discussions
Glad your safe and many blessing for not not being injured. -
What Could or Possibly Also May Be in your Hunting Area
Salmon_Run replied to nobody's topic in General Hunting
I have lost my pet mountain lion in upstate New York and all you people want to do is doubt my existence here.... -
If it was a response of this magnitude and they arrived simultaneously it most likely was a drug raid or they were after a specific wanted person known to be at the residence. Please let us know.....
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I can't believe how close he walked by camp as I was there this night. He was within feet of my back door and outhouse and nonchalantly strolled by for a photo opportunity.
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Welcome aboard here, it's lots of fun and addicting....
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I always wondered what walks by my off grid cabin so I placed a trail camera right by my backdoor. I've had bears and deer walk on by (even if I'm there) and just pulled the card Thanksgiving day to see and I found this...
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Grey sweat pants, a nylon vest and not a speck of blood or entry wound ???
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One has to skin and quarter bears if help is lacking or if way off the beaten track. Then the packframe comes into use. If you hunt bears religiously you need a good skinning knife,small pack saw, para cord, game bags for quarters, headlamp and a sturdy pack frame. I guess a strong back come into play also. Dragging bears is like dragging a garbage bag of jello as they roll and become wedged easily. I've even tried carrying them on poles (they swing) and ice fishing sleds (that bear is too big). Very hard to tell from a picture, but I would think that's about a 500 pound bear.
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That right there is a BIG bear; no trying to field judge that walking (waddling) by your stand.
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Sadly lack of respect is wide spread; I grew up knowing if I used someone's else's property and or equipment I was required to ASK PERMISSION first or stay the hell away...
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I've been into G Lake several times during spring/summer/early fall with some success on smaller fish. The area is beautiful and access is easy. There used to be a few canoes stashed near the lake that were commonly used and put back so all one had to do was carry in paddles. I'm a fly fisherman so I use the common trout flies and streamers as I drift or "troll"; there is also access from shore in some spots if one has the desire to wander. I would imagine small spoons, spinners and worms cast from shore would all be good options. Great area for overnight trips and/or day trips; if one stays overnight use common sense and bear preventive measures. The state stocked nearly 2000 brook trout in 2015 of 3-4 inch size; not sure how they have done since.
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I'm headed up Wednesday hopefully till seasons end....(snow camo added) Last year, the weekend before Thanksgiving my son and I were up there trapping/hunting and the rest of the family was due to come up Thanksgiving. We got nearly 3 feet of wet snow and we had to pull traps and head out. I was soaked to the waist and exhausted from pulling traps, packing and dragging all the weeks food and supplies to the roadway. We got to Speculator and no snow!! It sucked and ended our season early. Driving home my son says "dad, those people must like our truck, they keep pointing at us". Nope, it was because our truck and flat bed trailer were covered in 3 feet of wet snow..... Stay well and hope to see you in the area...
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There are a few of us that hunt Hamilton County, big deer few and far between. Hard to pattern in any time of the season and rough land to navigate. Where about do you wander ?
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Welcome aboard here.guess you see some have a great sense of humor.
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I remember fishing the "flow" when it was owned by Utica China, full of clear water and pulling beautiful native book trout from under the two spillways. My grandfather and I spent countless hours fishing and hunting Morehouse. Now I have my own off grid camp and am teaching my kids the area and fishing ways..... Memories are fond.