nyslowhand

I just don't get it...why!?! Only reason I'd purchase another Xbow would be as an upgrade. Easier or quieter cocking, better scope, ++fps/Ke, blah, blah. When doing so, the intent would be my original would either collect dust or be sold. Maybe it's just me still considering a Xbow as a <50yrd weapon. Boys and their toys, huh?

IRC, the 2014 (current) Xbow regulations with 200#/17" restrictions was a sort of "back-handed" way of not allowing the newly (in ~2014) developed reverse draw Xbows in the woods. Not to beat a dead horse - but when you put a fanatical lobbyist group and clueless legislators in a room to come up with a bill, this dumb-a$$ stuff happens!

... makes more sense and NYS legislation, don't see those terms together a lot!!! Joking, of course... maybe! Hope you're saying a bow hunting license with required bow hunter safety course. I'm all-in for that! Which BTW, means it'd be hard to give a specific season date range for Xbows within archery season if a Xbow were truly designated a bow.... Be like telling the long bow hunters they can only hunt a certain date range within the bow season even though they are using a "bow"!!?!! FYI - This whole FUBAR terminology thing got initiated in 2014 NYS Xbow legislation when lobbying groups got their way and Xbows were compared to MLs and that lic was required. Thank you NYS legislators... sarcasm! Still confused about the "special archery season" verbiage. DEC's website casually mentions it a few times, but there is never a reference to when/where that season exists. I'd be happy if all but one of the line items were removed from this bill and have it strictly X'fer Xbow regulating authority to the DEC. Where it belongs!!!

Again... that section allowing 55yo to use Xbows during the special archery season. WTH is that season!!?!!

Strictly an FYI for those wondering whatz going on this year. Not meant as an open invitation to express your pro/con opinion, yet again! We all know where everyone stands, many times over! Got this notice from NYCC when cking my eMail late Wed evening. Most interesting provision, if I'm reading correctly, is to allow the DEC to implement Xbow useage, seasons, a legal implement, etc. The bad news is these bills were refereed to each house's Enviro Cons sub-committee. With only ~13 working days left before summer recess, it'd be some unheard of "swift actions" by our NYS legislators to get these bills thru the approval process & on Czar Andy's desk. I'm still unclear about the reference to a "special archery season", WTH is it!?! Anyways, here's the cut/paste body of the announcement, with membership & leg contact pleas omitted... New Crossbow Bills Introduced Last week Assemblywoman Carrie Woerner and Senator Jen Metzger introduced crossbow bills. These bills are not full inclusion but they offer significant movement toward it. A7627 (Woerner)/S5818 (Metzger) What do these bills do? Changes crossbow to the bowhunting privilege from the muzzleloader privilege Replaces the special longbow season with a special archery season and adds crossbow Allows 12 - 15 year olds to hunt with a crossbow (removes the prior prohibition on 12 and 13 year old's) Authorizes those 55 years old or older to use a crossbow in a special archery season Authorizes those physical unable to draw a longbow as determined by a physician to use a crossbow in a special archery season Allows youth to hunt wild small game and wild upland birds with a crossbow Changes the term bolt to arrow Removes the 200 lb maximum draw weight and the minimum 17" width restriction Repeals the prohibition on the use of mechanical devise with a bow and authorization (permit) for disabled hunters to use crossbows which may be discharged only using one's breath Authorizes DEC to adopt regulations authorizing the taking of wildlife using a crossbow and to include a summary of such regulations in the hunting syllabus Reduces the setback to discharge a crossbow to 150 feet consistent with a long bow

I have a Redfield scope on my 22mag.

Funny! Have to make sure you mounted those so tracks appeared to be in different direct than the ATV was going. Look here Billy-Bob, this deer is following an ATV! Let's stalk em.

Guess the folks in Wyoming Co are tired of waiting for legislators to pass a state-wide bill! If you viewed the link, it got refereed to the dreaded Enviro sub-committee where all Xbow bills linger until dying.

I believe there is a little more than merely semantics. Most Xbow mfgers refer to them as arrows. Possibly attempting to keep their products more in line with vertical bow archery. Marketing smoke n mirrors. I'll admit to being guilty of buying wrong items when in a hurry or not paying attention! Shouldn't be an issue with Xbow projectiles. Don't recall ever seeing unfinished Xbow bolts/arrows. You're always prompted or it's clearly displayed on pkging their length, either 20" or 22". Not to mention you have to specify a nock style, either flat or 1/2 moon. Agreed.. would make things so much less confusing if Xbows used apples and vertical bows used oranges.

Must have been that beverage store just east of the porn shop close to the Rte104/350 traffic light. Only the porn shop survives, so whatz that say about us Wayne Co residents??? Sort of like years ago driving thru PA on Rte15, seemed like every 2-3 miles there was a roadside porn shop. So I've been told....

... Yes, historically a Xbow projectile was called a bolt, but a lot of name brand Xbow mfgers refer to them now-a-days as arrows. In your defense Eddie I do see Easton/Beaman call them bolts, while Gold-Tip does NOT call them either a bolt or an arrow. Confusing!?! Over past ~5yrs bolts &/or arrows for Xbows has sort of become an interchangeable term. Same mfgering process, material, diameter, weight choices for vertical bow & Xbow use, simply shorter with different nocks for Xbows. Not something I'm going to get obsessed over, what to call my Xbow projectile. Tomato.. Tomato', Puhkahn....Peecan. You call it a bolt, I know what you're talking about if we're discussing Xbows!!!!!

FYI - Not many will be able to read the full report from WSJ, but you did forgot to include the by-line; "Both parties have largely given President Trump leeway on Beijing, but steeper levies on imports passed on to U.S. companies and consumers might change that."

Nice lush lawns... if that's what you want. I can't wait for the late summer brown lawn when I use my weed-whacker to top off those deep rooted weeds and don't have to mow the lawn but ~1-2/mo.

^^^ 2nd that! Unfortunately, when current Xbow season (and legislation) was implemented in ~2014 the way it was .... a disaster. Probably have to be a special Xbow license and the requirement that bow safety course be completed. That'll make a lot of non-bow hunters that never took the bow course and still hunted w/Xbow for ~5yrs very unhappy. Same scenario if full Xbow implementation as a legal weapon for all of bow season gets approved. No way to "grandfather" them in since there's no evidence anyone actually used a Xbow, other than the ML license requirement or maybe a harvest report. NY legislators fumbled the ball back in 2014 trying to appease special lobby groups! Would be a whole lot different if the DEC were handed this hot potato from the start!!!!

Agree with Pygmy's intent, not so much with his lustful details though... She's definitely perdy!

Okay, so they're still pretty much fuzzy nubs by the end of May, but you can definitely see some racks growing at a faster rate than others. These will eventually develop into bigger racks, per my trail cam photos over the years. Disclaimer - Brush buck observations! Probably different scenario where agr crops could possibly help antlers grow at a different rate over different time frames!?! To each his/her own desires, but I check my cams weekly because I like to follow the buck's development, fawns frolicking, #s inventory and esp travel patterns that develop/change.

I got one specifically for the mfger's Xbow I have since the fore stock has a molded feature to accept the pivoting attachment end. It extends 25-36", so it's pretty much a tree stand stick. DYK - You can use these shorter shooting sticks while stalking &/or walking to/fro the stand? Just adjust length and tuck end into your belt/belly area. Not perfect, but helpful when trying to hold your ~7# Xbow any length of time. If you use one of similar adj length, IDK but assuming you could use it same way up in a hang-on stand while seated..!?!

Note to MOM - We had our issues, but I always told you I loved you and I still do with all my heart. My one wish is that where your journey has taken you has relieved you of any mental & physical limitations. I think of you everyday, but more so on this day dedicated to all moms. Be well mom, love ya and see you soon!

Wonder if this is a sort of recessive (genetic) trait within a specific area that comes out every few generations??? From what I've heard & read, if you see one in an area, sometime in the future you possibly may see another in same vicinity. Don't they tend to be smaller deer also? Anyone...?

Per my historical trail cam sightings, growth begins early May (+/-). Significant jump in growth during month of May. Biggest reveal tends to be during June thru ~July 4th. JMO, by then the bucks are about 75% of what they'll be in October. Can tell then when there'll be nice ones around come bow season. Clearly different habitat, food sources, genetics, etc effect this growth rate. The rule of thumb for "bone" growth in area I hunt.

^^^ esp with some of the really tight OEM or screw-in chokes available, the pattern at ~10yrds is pretty small. So is margin of error! Compromises...!?!

We all know this, but... difference between wild turkeys vs farm raised turkeys is similar to venison vs beef. Less fat thus a dryer meat when cooked. Those cook-in-the-bags work good for whole turkeys or just the breast. Can be creative with what liquids &/or spices you add to the bag before sealing it up.

You seemed to be doing so good with your 12-step rehab... until you mentioned your relapse trip!

This was my dad's strategy for giving me single shot beginner guns. Exact same mind-set that eventually got me into ML & bow hunting.

FYI - Last 4-5 years once a proposed Xbow bill was introduced, it has been referred to each legislative branch's Environ Conser sub-committee for consideration. This is where these past bills have suffered a lingering death. Except for once a bill actually passed thru, but never was scheduled to be voted upon before the summer recess. Bizarre thing to me is some of the sponsors of Xbow legislation actually sit on these sub-committees and still nothing progresses. After the re-adjourning from the summer recess, these bills seem to never be spoken about again, like they've disappeared. Re-introduction of a new or re-worked Xbow bill gets introduced each year ~Mar time frame, hoping to be included in new budget & "pork-bellied" thru. Naturally they get stripped out of the budget! Then there's a big push in lobbying to get these bills voted on in May/June time frame when legislative session days are numbered before the summer recess. And on and on and on... same old thing year after year with same results!!!! Insanity!?! Guess I'm just a dumb-a$$... The logical thing to me seems to be to introduce a bill allowing the DEC to take ownership of this issue. Clearly, our legislators have no clue what to do with it other than avoidance. Would give them a clear way to get this hot-potato issue off their annual docket. TOO simple...?? Whether pro or con Xbow inclusion, wouldn't you agree the DEC is better suited to make these decisions??