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Neat No Till Experiment..
LET EM GROW replied to LET EM GROW's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
If your trying to establish fall plots, you'll have to start with adding a Rye or Wheat to your fall plots.. When these grow back in the spring time.. You'll want to seed into these plots in early-mid June, then mow them down over the freshly spread seeds. Here is where you'd want to spread buckwheat as your summer crop. You'd then after 6 weeks or so, want to spread your fall blend into it and to terminate that with a mower or roller(isnt 100% without GLY) after you spread your fall seeds into it. This is the type of rotation you'd have to get into to eliminate spray and tilling. And without a total kill off you'll combat some weeds with every planting. but if you can time your rains and your seeds as they mature to terminate for your next planting. you can make it work if mother nature does her part. Or stick with a heavy till each time. You can get cheaper used small farm cultivators on craigslist or estate sales. Or invest into a decent atv drag of some sort and if you till once, till again in a couple weeks, and again a couple weeks later you can stay ahead of weeds.. but its really not good in terms of soil health. -
Neat No Till Experiment..
LET EM GROW replied to LET EM GROW's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
IT works great, but spray is a must or your vegetation will come back and take over your plot. :/ But otherwise yes it will work. If you get the right seed blends in the dirt you can do this without spray. Whether mowing it down or rolling/crimping it.. -
Neat No Till Experiment..
LET EM GROW replied to LET EM GROW's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
Its still just as important. Soil tests are a must if you want top notch results. and If you have the funds and time to do as they require you to, to get your soil up to par. I don't and I'm cheap so lol. Strictly planting no till, and using good seed BLENDS you will create Organic matter fast and that is natural fertilizer and works in place of fert. Your also not destroying the biology and livingness in the soil when you till soil. Seed blends with bulbs, grains, annual clovers and such will produce phenomenal soil in a quick matter of time. Roll it down over top of your new seed and spray with gly.. or crimp if you can time it right. -
Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
I have the same one as well. Definitely have to do circles to get aggressive. Just keep an eye on your bearings it will eat them up doing circles. I like to add weight on mine and just zig zag your way down and back.. just to lightly scuff up the soil. -
Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
If its just a "laying" Layer of cut grasses you can seed into it with ease. a steady rain will push any seed that didnt fall to the ground. Seed and run your cultipack over it before you leave. You can also do a light till or drag if need be but that layer is actually good for your soil. ITs protecting it and it will also protect your seeds as well as hold moisture in when its present. Several ways to go about this. Just depends on your available time and desire.. lol. You dont need a tilled bed of soil to plant tiny little seeds. Just remember that. Bene doing "half a44ed or Poor mans" plots for years. As well as conventional tilling or disking.. IT all works the same -
Yea I hate snakes too especially these water snakes.. Theyre aggressive and have kept me from swimming in several natural water sources lol. Nothing more eerie feeling than swimming and seeing one directly over your head on the sunning bank.. or swim between your legs. Nope nope nope lol
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I help run a Poor Mans No Till Food plot page on the Facebook.. So i thought id share here since a couple people have tried using no till broadcast methods. We did a trial last year on our no till page in planter pots, about spray on exposed seeds, and thatch covered seeds etc. People were saying they were getting terrible results with trying no till practices. And we were getting baffled on how.. As long as moisture is present now and in the future. It works in most all soils.. We learned if you put too much spray down at once, it will begin the germination process, but also sucks the gly/chemical into the new sprout and kills it.. By keeping the spray to a mist(like normal) you should be golden. Not giving the seed enough water to pop. Luckily the dead matter in no till practice covers the seed and protects them well.. People along with Jeff Sturgis say you can spray the seed and it wont effect it. Well in reality it doesnt, but if you apply too much it sure does, due to enough moisture from water chemical mix.. the seed starts doing its thing and your left with a lower germination rate.. Cell 1 Thrived Cell 2 Had basically zero germination Cell 3 Had near great germination but slightly less than cell 1 Cell 4 Had great germination like cell 1 Cell 5 had a slightly lower germination rate but plenty good for food plotting. Cell 6 as you expect grew as it should.. I cant seem to find the result photo. But kinda neat, thought id share... I know some people try to avoid using spray and with the right practices and seed blends while using these methods it can be achieved. But you have to be dedicated to the plot and results as well, and keep planting seasons rotating...
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Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
You'd either have to roll the heck out of it with a heavy roller or utilize a crimper. Otherwise spray is needed unless you want volunteers or this to stand back up. -
Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
We got another one in last night, anticipating the rain that's coming today and next week. Another long skinny kill plot about 1/2 acre. Planted with Triticale, a couple annual clovers, perennial clovers, some Hybrid forage Brassica, Collards and Turnips.. Planting these a tad early in hopes to get some growth from the annual clovers. This is close to our cabin, but always produces does harvest opportunities and in the Rut, the bucks are there. Decent cover all around this leaves it pretty well secluded. We did a minimum till to create light soil exposure, and sprayed it a couple days earlier. Due to the heavy rock and weed pressure from a let go perennial plot. No till was going to be too risky here as dry as its been without picking these rocks.. -
I would say chances are slim but anything is possible. Just bc he's not on cam doesn't mean he is not there more often either. If youd like to harvest him, id focus on the areas he is traveling during day and spend some time there. Have what's available as far as decent bear foods like berries and such and your chances will get higher.. The same bears travel through my place in 8p but not on a regular basis. Our woods are more of a travel corridor for these roamers but they eventually come back through. Have had a couple different cinnamons on cam several times in one year and back to back years.... and as mentioned above, unless baiting or having a natural bear buffet available.. its hard to pattern a bear..
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I totally get it, best of luck to you.
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Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
The Murder plot.. is my slice of heaven. Handing it down to my new generation of hunters lol. But no, certainly the same thing! lol -
With inflation and all, It wouldnt be a bad idea. but not many people are looking to buy in Fall, Sell it in Spring with better luck id imagine. But to get full or close to full price is going to be hard if a warranty isnt present or expired..
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She said if you are serious on a new camper, to give her a call and go through her and her store. She would certainly help and hook you up. I personally think your better off with new camper with the warranty. especially if financed, the rates are typically better on new vs used. Theres some things she explained to me that I cannot repeat cause it was a bit over my head, without seeing it on paper myself.. But she'd certainly help you out if you were interested. Call or go see her at Wilkins in Bath lol.
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Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
I sprayed gly on a brand new "Kill PLot" on July 4th, and sprayed again on July 21 To kill off the rest and or new weeds.. I seeded into it and rolled in the seed. The standing vegetation wasnt dead enough to get the results I desired but this is more of an early experiment to see how easy it can be to get these seeds to pop.. But there is a tremendous amount of decomposing matter from previous years, this soil has to be in decent shape. holding a ton of moisture as well. The idea of a double spray or even a triple spray is it will kill of the vegetation and it slightly opens and exposes soil to allow the seed to contact, only requiring a little moisture for germination. A very easy process. There was heavy rain in the forecast for the week so I tried it.. IF it doesn't germinate I will till it all under with the tractor... Pic is from right after rainfall, will check in a week or two and make final decision. This was planted for my wife really as I placed a Muddy Ladder to the left of this pic, 10 yards off the plot. This plot has a big brassica blend as well, rutabaga, Turnips, Collards, Hybrid forage Brassica, Radish, with Balansa, Berseem and Crimson clovers too.. This will get an over seeding of a high Tonnage perennial blend in September/October and be converted to a perennial plot by Spring. Last few pics are what used to be my Murder Plot... Trying to teach my brother the ways of planting traditional and no till and hes "still learning" we'll say.. so instead of no till we lightly scratched this plot and seeded into it a hybrid forage brassica, collards and bulbs as well as some annual clovers.. Will also put Rye into it in September to convert back to no till next year.. Really cant wait to see these two kill plots.. They are put up in hopes my wife, and son and brothers GF can harvest from. Both located against a sanctuary on separate properties and about a 1/2-2/3 acre in size, Theyll also have a mock scrape setup to give a perfect 20 yard opportunity at both plots... These should double and be great spots for Spring Turkey action again too.. -
Official 2022 Fall Plots Thread
LET EM GROW replied to Five Seasons's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
No till is really so awesome. And so beneficial as well. Good work man! -
Yes sort of, She is Finance Manager. Also was Manager of Service Dept. I might be able to answer some questions for you or worse case relay them to her for you? They are pretty dang busy in terms of selling brand new Units, IF it were me I would certainly go with a brand new one. IDk about deals or incentives but the new ones are moving faster than the used ones are for sure.
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Super hogster thermal, or Pulsar Digex
LET EM GROW replied to Gencountyzeek's topic in Hunting Items For Sale and Trade
This model doesn't take the cr123? -
ITs so damn tempting. Plus they look like a typical riflescope too. We will see, The Hogster lineup is looking tempting as well.
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Yea that is what i heard as well. I'm not a fan of supporting that country either. My good buddy just got the Thermion XP50 Pro lrf.. delivers today. Would love to have it but idk if i can justify that price tag, I still only get out maybe a dozen times a year still.
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Theres a lot more out in the woods then people realize. And alot killed each and every year. The older they get the smarter they typically get. Also, many people tie in antler inches to age and that is not accurate. And each geographic location within this state is slightly different than the next.. I made a quick loop around the block the other night and i only saw one buck that was a 4.5+ but several that were probably 3.5s. I only traveled by a dozen or so fields and it was early yet. I own and lease near Amish land and we still see and harvest 4.5yr old bucks each year. They are there, but they aren't going to be where they dont want to be( where they dont feel safe or have what they need to live) Ive had the joys of following three different bucks over the last decade.. one disappeared around XMas time one year.. he was 10.5 years old .. another that was killed that same year on the same hill and he was 9.5yrs old.. Also, another that was killed this past year that i had a lot of history with that was 7.5 or 8.5 years old.. This hill is heavily hunted and many are brown its down guys.. These bucks are out there.. but again you wont find them where they dont feel safe and have what they need..
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What do you think of the AGM Rattler? Ive heard decent unit, but some bad customer service. So far my AGM TM25 has been good to me
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Starting food plots for 2022
LET EM GROW replied to land 1's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
You can spray as long as you have an hour or so for the herbicide to set and take place.. most are typically rainproof in 45 minutes or less. Im doing a brand new half acre plot. Its grasses and ragweed.. I sprayed Gly July 4th and am spraying Gly and 2-4,d today for a final spray and will seed into it and roll before the next decent rain.. Also think I'm going to make a 10 yrd wide 100 yard long plot not too far away.. Same thing only this will get just 1 spray application. seed then roll -
Certain brassicas are fine to plant mid late July.. Any Brassica that produces a bulb you "Do Not" want to plant too early. Bigger is not better in terms of bulb size. Bigger leaf is good, bigger bulb no, when your trying to keep these plants palatable and preferred... The down fall of many these Food plot companies making these seed blends is they look and sound good. But most times you only really utilize half of the seed blend or less. Sugar beets need 120 days to hit maturity so you will get a little top growth, but they also dont like competition. The turnips will be ok, a tad early but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.. Especially depending on your geographic location.. parts of NY need to start planting late July, Others can wait until Mid August.. First frost varies 2-3 weeks across the state.. My Fall plots that mostly consist of just mostly brassica with no bulb and other annuals, will go in next week or two sometime when rain is present. the bulbs will go in First Week of August or when Rain is present in that time frame.. A present rainfall is better when getting seeds into the ground, vs a set date each year when conditions are dry like this year.. The best part when planting fall winter plots, is if they dont take off due to weather or whatever it is, you can overseed rye or wheat into them at 75-100lbs per acre mid september.. and still have good greenery
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Antler king fall winter spring
LET EM GROW replied to SWEDE's topic in Land Management, Food Plots and QDM
The grains are annuals, they'll come back in spring.. you can let them go to seed.. good fawning cover and seed for turkeys. they'll die out in late June. Or you can no till a summer blend into them early June, broadcast, roll then spray..